Continuing thread from "New Users"

[localzuk]

Put it this way - I am more likely to do business with a company if their staff are personable and friendly. This is one of the reasons I buy from CP - Joe, Simon et al are always friendly and chatty. I'm sick of businesses having their staff sound like they hate their jobs.

 

So, in essence, more of people like Danielle and Simon!

[mossj]

Put it this way - I am more likely to do business with a company if their staff are personable and friendly. This is one of the reasons I buy from CP - Joe, Simon et al are always friendly and chatty. I'm sick of businesses having their staff sound like they hate their jobs.

 

So, in essence, more of people like Danielle and Simon!

 

This is called "f!sh", after the Seattle fish market that started making their employee's have fun at work, and saw their sales boom.

 

or thats what the Customer Service 'experts' we have advising us call it.

 

It does work to the extreme, the team that deal with payments of dept use it, and you have people walking away that have just paid $$$$ with a huge smile on their face.

Edited January 23, 2010 by mossj

[torledo]

i went back and read a few of those posts in New Users, and as i was reading along started to think that maybe 'Danielle' was confusing Edugeek with twitter.

 

Then Dos_Box comes out with the 'this isn't Facebook' line which was very amusing. Though quite why so many users felt the need to clog up the mod's inbox instead of saying as much on the thread in one short, sharp sentence or two is one of the mysteries of this place.

 

Actually, it's no mystery, maybe some people are fearful of being labelled 'unhelpful' or 'sneering' if they are a tad blunt in some of their comments.

Edited January 23, 2010 by torledo

[GrumbleDook]

I missed most of this lot yesterday (a little thing called have a job and doing it!) but it has been fun to read through ... and what do you know ... the censorship stuff is doing the rounds again.

 

Oh well ... here goes my tuppenceworth.

 

@Richard_S hey mate, I was sorry to see you go the first time, glad you came back and would be sorry to see you go again ... but hey, you are a Push buttons and people react. Don't get surprised or upset. Don't be surprised or upset when others press buttons and get a rap on the knuckles.

(hmm ... I can hear the crackle of burning leather as you get hot under the collar of the leather waistcoat ... talking of which, I thought you were going to pop down to BETT sometime so we could have a beer ... or rather a beer and a coke? I miss you wandering onto the capita stand in your t-shirt and leather waistcoat, looking for someone to hassle )

@Theeldergeek - you post some really good stuff, and I enjoy it but you don't half too ... but I do like the style you do it in ... reminds me of a barrack-room lawyer I once knew. He completely changed when he got a commission ... don't change ...

@mattx - you are a and I can hear you shrugging your shoulders from here ... but hey, you know the boundaries ... enjoy butting against them and definitely know when to step back and when to push.

@ringofflame - to be honest ... bored now. Yep, definitely a but c'mon ... it's not all about you and the fight against the man!

 

Oh ... not forgetting ...

 

@grumbledook - you're a too. How dare you start going round calling folk trolls when all they are doing is giving their opinions, fighting their corner, working hard and sharing some fun.

 

Then again .. there is a difference in the way some people insult others .. not just online but in real life too. If someone calls me a fscking \/\/4|\||<3r then fine ... a tad boring and not that accurate, but if they put the effort in and go back to some classic insults

[Thou] leathern-jerkin, crystal-button, knot-pated, agatering, puke-stocking, caddis-garter, smooth-tongue, Spanish pouch! - Henry IV part 1

then at least they have put some effort into it.

 

Life is too short to get bothered about all this ... EG is too large for everyone to get along smoothly, I accept that some people think I am a self-promoting, egotistical, self-righteous, sell-out idiot who pontificates, prevaricates and general never gets to the point.

 

I can live with that. They might even be correct ... not right ... only *I* am right ... they are merely correct. I know I'm not going to get on or agree with everyone ... sometimes we do and sometimes we don't ... I bang heads with localzuk on some things and we support each other in other areas ... that's life. Get on with I say, don't get personal, don't get shocked if someone say to take a step back and always remember to be careful that you say it all on a public forum, and it make years to come back and bite you, but sometimes it just might.

 

Edit - Some folk may have taken my comment about Witch as Mod bashing ... or as a personal attack. It wasn't ... it was trying to point out that a tough job is done by some people on here, mods and members alike, but the fact that they may get flak for it doesn't stop them.

 

Perfectly appropriate for it to be removed if folk don't understand that context. I could have picked a few other mods or members who run that gauntlet ... but after taking part in the clingfilm incident with Domino and EduTech I seriously didn't want to be seen commenting on them ... hey, that might just seem weird.

 

Ok .. that was almost a sixpence there. (Nearly a whole shilling in fact)

Edited January 24, 2010 by GrumbleDook

[Haptic]

in defence of "Ring Of Flame" i would say that the women of the forum would see danielle's posts in a darker light , I'm come on if i got one of our people to sign up with a avatar showing a pair of legs and then starting a thread feeling frisky I'm sure its going to be mostly ment that reply,

I think the point is tone it down a little she did come on strong and if you look deep enough into it you will see past the female bravodo and know it just another way of getting a new lead customer what have you,

dont get me wrong its great to have a fresh face on the scene but male or female, now how would you guys feel if it was a guy started that thread and he had a avatar showing him in no top and wearing shorts muscles everywhere , think about it how many of you would be pm'in dos_box to moan about it ,

just my out of work two pennies worth;)

[Guest theeldergeek]

@Theeldergeek - you post some really good stuff, and I enjoy it but you don't half troll too ... but I do like the style you do it in ... reminds me of a barrack-room lawyer I once knew. He completely changed when he got a commission ... don't change ...

 

Was thinking of simply shutting the up, and this has made ma mind up. Thanks folks, enjoyed Edugeek, to a point. There's more to life than arguing with 'avatars' and being labeled as someone who can only give an unqualified opinion.

 

Admins, if you can, please kill my account.

 

[torledo]

in defence of "Ring Of Flame" i would say that the women of the forum would see danielle's posts in a darker light , I'm come on if i got one of our people to sign up with a avatar showing a pair of legs and then starting a thread feeling frisky I'm sure its going to be mostly ment that reply,

I think the point is tone it down a little she did come on strong and if you look deep enough into it you will see past the female bravodo and know it just another way of getting a new lead customer what have you,

dont get me wrong its great to have a fresh face on the scene but male or female, now how would you guys feel if it was a guy started that thread and he had a avatar showing him in no top and wearing shorts muscles everywhere , think about it how many of you would be pm'in dos_box to moan about it ,

just my out of work two pennies worth;)

 

hang on, wasn't it you who started it off by going on about playing with your components or something like that ?

[localzuk]

Was thinking of simply shutting the up, and this has made ma mind up. Thanks folks, enjoyed Edugeek, to a point. There's more to life than arguing with 'avatars' and being labeled as someone who can only give an unqualified opinion.

 

Admins, if you can, please kill my account.

 

 

There's no need for that. As I say to everyone who thinks I'm taking things personally - I'm not. Why would I? Its a forum. Everyone expresses their opinions and their lives go on. Whilst the site continues to be an invaluable tool to our profession.

 

The thing is, we are all just 'someone who can only give an unqualified opinion'. That is the nature of anonymous discussions.

 

now how would you guys feel if it was a guy started that thread and he had a avatar showing him in no top and wearing shorts muscles everywhere , think about it how many of you would be pm'in dos_box to moan about it , just my out of work two pennies worth;)

 

Personally? I wouldn't be bothered - but then, I'm a bleeding heart liberal who doesn't find things like that to be an issue Unless they're rugby players running down my street in the buff singing drunken songs of course, lol.

Edited January 23, 2010 by localzuk

[GrumbleDook]

Was thinking of simply shutting the up, and this has made ma mind up. Thanks folks, enjoyed Edugeek, to a point. There's more to life than arguing with 'avatars' and being labeled as someone who can only give an unqualified opinion.

 

Admins, if you can, please kill my account.

 

 

Sheesh ... did you not get my point? You push the boundaries ... you provoke debate ... you know you do and it s fun to but heads at times. I know some people change over the years ... see the bit that says "don't change".

 

Did you not get the point that I was trying to provoke a response? That is what trolls do ... and the bloody good ones do it from a position of knowledge and experience.

[Haptic]

hang on, wasn't it you who started it off by going on about playing with your components or something like that ?

 

pmsl you should have seen the pm's i recieved

 

lol its a fair

 

http://gothamist.com/attachments/nyc_arts_john/081908cop.jpg

 

 

oh no its a female looking seductive , time for a new thread lol:p

Edited January 23, 2010 by Haptic

[localzuk]

lol its a fair

 

 

oh no its a female looking seductive , time for a new thread lol:p

 

Now, that could be post could be found in a dictionary under the word 'troll'

[stratisphere]

eduporn!

 

(P.s. this and the previous x threads are just funny. Do you lot really take each other's comments so seriously that it can provoke such a response?)

Edited January 23, 2010 by stratisphere
oh crap, it's actually a link!

[Haptic]

lol i'm only getting involved because i've had a few vodka's lol:eek:

 

p.s please ignore my sig i'm off duty tonight lol

Edited January 23, 2010 by Haptic
disclaimer added lol

[GrumbleDook]

@stratisphere

 

lol ... love that it was an actual link.

 

Reminds me of spending a friday afternoon at the first school I did support at. We were testing i-Gear (as it was before being bought by Symantec, and subsequently became Symantec Web Security). We were randomly thinking of anything that could be porn related and turning it into a URL and seeing if i-Gear blocked it. Scary the number of sites that were real and the number that got through the URL search. Thankfully the text filters blocked them. There was a fantastic site taking the mickey out of pr0n ... all cartoons of prawns. Never found it again since ... and then there was another site which had a massive gif of a women in 'serious clothes' who was spanking a hard drive ... that poor IBM case took a right battering.

 

The site did advertise a kinkier site where they took screw drivers to motherboards ... but that was a step too far for a naive young lad!

[GrumbleDook]

Now, that could be post could be found in a dictionary under the word 'troll'

 

We need a new status ... forget EduSupporter, etc ... EduTroll.

[elsiegee40]

in defence of "Ring Of Flame" i would say that the women of the forum would see danielle's posts in a darker light

 

Maybe, maybe not. As one of the "women of the forum" (primary and more mature at that ) I read the original post in the spirit with which it was probably intended... smiled to myself and even added a post on the thread and then lost interest as the thread grew too long for me to keep up and do some work.

 

I seem to remember Mandy posting a couple of provocatively titled threads not so long ago without this hoo-ha. Calm down you lot.

 

@Danielle welcome and I hope that a few calmer days will now ensue and that you can enjoy edugeek as I do

[Haptic]

Maybe, maybe not. As one of the "women of the forum" (primary and more mature at that ) I read the original post in the spirit with which it was probably intended... smiled to myself and even added a post on the thread and then lost interest as the thread grew too long for me to keep up and do some work.

 

I seem to remember Mandy posting a couple of provocatively titled threads not so long ago without this hoo-ha. Calm down you lot.

 

@Danielle welcome and I hope that a few calmer days will now ensue and that you can enjoy edugeek as I do

 

fair point hun , just making a mental note to ones self not to judge so quickly, just wish i could use my flirtility skills to get traffice to our website lol:eek:

[SYNACK]

We need a new status ... forget EduSupporter, etc ... EduTroll.

 

I like that idea that would be hilarous, there could even be special ceremony threads where they are awarded for services to Trolling

 

I do wonder how long it would be before I was presented with one though

[mb2k01]

This thread (in its latest merge / fusion!) seems to be much calmer with some senior and influential people also suggesting yesterday was handled quite badly. That is good to see, and being a member who usually only posts on technical threads, makes me feel slightly less controversial!

 

What I would be interested in seeing now is a post from which ever mod(s) decided to lock / censor / move content. How does it work with you? Personal opinion, or following rules that you are privy to?

Was this

 

I have to say, Dos_Box's "not Facebook" post was a pretty awful way to treat a professional, representing an IT company that may ultimately have added to your list of sponsors! I would point out that previous discussions regarding site / user rules would have prevented the entire issue - New users would know how to behave, and hopefully members would have had a say in what those rules are.... But I believe that is a subject is somewhere between off-limits and being talked about by admins!

 

For anyone who has read my previous posts (as said above, largely technical/work only) you might be forgiven for wondering if I've had my account hijacked - but in fact, I am just increasingly disillusioned.

I used to feel (correctly or incorrectly) a valued part of a strong community. With recent negativities I am feeling like most of us are wasting our time here. We should get our technical assistance and then sign out. I'm not sure that is really in keeping with the vision for this site.... is it?

[markcuk]

yep dos_box should off posted that in a PM to Danielle. Just shows he hasn't got a grip on this place and if you don't want emails matey what the hell are you doing running edugeek.

 

if your having a bad mate don't take it out on new members.

 

mark

[Haptic]

yep dos_box should off posted that in a PM to Danielle. Just shows he hasn't got a grip on this place and if you don't want emails matey what the hell are you doing running edugeek.

 

if your having a bad mate don't take it out on new members.

 

mark

 

abit harsh dude , need to chill your boots alittle after all this is his business and there needs to be a little decorum in here dont you think:p

[Edu-IT]

Perhaps this whole issue would have been best discussed only with those involved behind closed doors? (Email? Skype?)

 

Problem is now too many people have their opinions to put in and it's making it boom again! Remove the post, if necessary explain why the post was removed in a locked thread and contact those individuals privately who need reminding of anything. If anyone then wants to put in their 2p worth they can contact the management.

[markcuk]

Perhaps this whole issue would have been best discussed only with those involved behind closed doors? (Email? Skype?)

 

 

That's the problem with this place. And when its the actual owner of this site doing it what can you do:confused:

 

anyway enough of this place I'm off to the pub

[Haptic]

That's the problem with this place. And when its the actual owner of this site doing it what can you do:confused:

 

anyway enough of this place I'm off to the pub

 

lol have one on me sounds like you need one fella:rolleyes:

[elsiegee40]

just wish i could use my flirtility skills to get traffice to our website lol:eek:

 

Oh but you do! Here's another hug!