Disease Posted July 20, 2006 Posted July 20, 2006 Where do you get yours from. It's that time of year again and I am looking at alternative suppliers. Xp and office 2003 with Visio Frontpage and Encarta is what I am looking for. Any advice on suppliers is appreciated.
Jake Posted July 20, 2006 Posted July 20, 2006 I always find Crock-eyed Dave in the Surrey Arms to be very good value
Disease Posted July 20, 2006 Author Posted July 20, 2006 Well why didn't you tell me I am sat right next to you. If you had told me dodgy Dave could have done I would not have had to post this thread.
Norphy Posted July 20, 2006 Posted July 20, 2006 Ramesys. Pugh. Phoenix. All good. Inmac and Misco do them as well I think. Tangible Benefit tried to get me to buy MS stuff through them too.
GrumbleDook Posted July 20, 2006 Posted July 20, 2006 If you are a specialist school then Ramesys hold the master select agreement ... and can usually be persuaded to throw something in.
bossman Posted July 20, 2006 Posted July 20, 2006 Yeah but you will have to wait forever for the software as we have been waiting 4-5 months as we have just attained specialist status and they were there to offer the moon but microsoft have let them down with their inevitable logistical problems.
Disease Posted July 20, 2006 Author Posted July 20, 2006 Cheers Guys will check them out, what sort of prices you paying for each licence.
bossman Posted July 20, 2006 Posted July 20, 2006 We got them for free as we have achieved status and have gone down the route of attaining all our software through ramasys exchange, sharepoint, enterprise server 2003 plus all cals free etc etc. but the problem is that we have to reapply for staus every 4 years and if we don't get it we will be forced to pay for all the software we have used.
plexer Posted July 20, 2006 Posted July 20, 2006 Always found Ramesys to be very fast delivery media cd's and your invoice is the licence documentation. Encarta is available from ELC's and they will throw in free frontpage licences with it. Office 2003 is £31 and I've gotten the same amount of frontpage licences thrown in free for that as well. Normally get either frontpage or server 2003 cals for free. You just have to be cheeky and ask. Ben
Guest Posted July 20, 2006 Posted July 20, 2006 Use the local LEA here now. Almost as cheap as Ramesys but easier to deal with.
plexer Posted July 20, 2006 Posted July 20, 2006 Our LEA just buys from Phoenix. More hassle for me to go through LEA so I go to Ramesys direct as we are also a Technology College. Ben
Face-Man Posted July 20, 2006 Posted July 20, 2006 I got my class A licences for £24.75 per machine (CALs,OS,Office) by getting Ramsys and Pugh to put in counter bids. I also got some server licences free so I could have a play with win 2003 and exchange before implementing it. Microsoft don't have fixed pricing (as this would be a cartell) so the sales teams have got quite a bit of flexibility if you push them down. :twisted:
ZeroHour Posted July 20, 2006 Posted July 20, 2006 Pugh Pugh Pugh because Ramsys SERIOSULY fecked out licensing. We told them what we had and they said this much for that and it turned out to be massively wrong. I would recommend any Ramsys peeps to have a gooood look at the actual inv for your licensing.
plexer Posted July 20, 2006 Posted July 20, 2006 ZH: Bit confused by your statement mate. I put in an order for x amount of licences at y price and when the invoice comes in if it wasn't x times y then the business manager would have a fit. Ben
ZeroHour Posted July 20, 2006 Posted July 20, 2006 Yeh thats how its supposed to work. But ramesys sent the wrong info to MS it appears so we were under-licensed for stuff badly. They also seemed to know nothing about MS licensing in general. We should be able to say "we want to have this many users access things like TS, how much will it cost? they will being running x ms apps" and they go well you need x, y and z licenses in these numbers. But they came back with wrong info in the TS case and we were under-licensed.
plexer Posted July 20, 2006 Posted July 20, 2006 Ahh ok makes more sense to me now. I've never had to deal with things like TS licences jsut pure o/s and apps ones and they've always been great. Ben
adent Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 We got them for free as we have achieved status and have gone down the route of attaining all our software through ramasys exchange, sharepoint, enterprise server 2003 plus all cals free etc etc. but the problem is that we have to reapply for staus every 4 years and if we don't get it we will be forced to pay for all the software we have used. Actually not true. We've been working with MS on the SSAT Partner Program and after the 4 years are up they turn into perpetual licenses. That means they freeze at the current version (whatever that may be). The school then has the option of taking out a new school agreement with software assurance... or not. Either way it's still a bonza deal.
MkII Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 Yeah but you will have to wait forever for the software as we have been waiting 4-5 months as we have just attained specialist status and they were there to offer the moon but microsoft have let them down with their inevitable logistical problems. Can't you set up a supplier to supply select licencees and then have access to the direct download or am I missing the point here?!?
adent Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 My understanding of the licensing is that you get access to a licensing site with your VLK's in it. The media is shipped to you seperately, but you can download from your site. I will have to check with our in house Licensing Specialist. (yes we sell the stuff - well actually we sell at 1% so you never know - we may be cheaper...) will let you know what he says.
GrumbleDook Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 Once again I delve into the murky depths of the licensing of Microsoft products under Select Agreements. Just to let people know ... Ramesys do monitor these forums ... and do their best to check that any gripes people have are followed up but they do say that if you have any issues you should contact them directly. Likewise Microsoft have a team that deal with Edu Licensing that will give you information. Under no circumstances contact anyone in Microsoft about licensing other than the edu team as you will get different information each time you ring. There are a few different agreements that Ramesys do ... some are just for Microsoft Partner Schools and they do indeed tend to have their own download site ... but for the bulk of us under the general SSAT Select Agreement there is no download site as Microsoft only provide limited access ... and if those access details were given out to all of the involved schools then you would be able to access *everything* that is available to buy under the Select Agreement irregardless of whether you paid for it or not ... making the control of licences almost impossible. Instead the Ramesys folks send the media out ... and where possible they do it free of charge depending on how many licences you have purchased. Those poeple with seperate Volume Licences agreements from other suppliers or directly with Microsoft are likely to have their own download access. To do this for each school using the SSAT Select Agreement would add additional cost onto the licences and the general feeling I got from the Ramesys folks was that they thought people would prefer to save the money and just wait for the media ... If you are a long suffering purchaser from Ramesys and you want someone to speak to direcctly feel free to PM me and I will pass you on some details. Software licensing is a mine field and if you are ever in doubt about what to do about infringements or exceeding licenses then put it on paper and give to your head and / or Chair of Governors ... because unles you have signed to say you are ultimately responsible theay are the people that will be fined ... and it can get nasty.
alonebfg Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 we have just had this problem our suppler of licences (not ramsys) sold us our licences 10 xp volume licences and 1 2003 r2 licence with cals. ok you say what the problem noone in the lea has the authotity to download said software it is given to council who will not do it as they say they dont support schools. and the coumpany we bought the licence from will not supply the media ( they will but for a silly cost??) hasten to say we have switched supplyer and will not be getting licences from them any more.
tarquel Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 So ....um.... how did you get the product key's for the licenses you purchased from this company?
dave.81 Posted March 29, 2007 Posted March 29, 2007 Just thought i'd add my 2p... we deal with a company called TME for our schools agreement, always been a good company to deal with. Quick response's to problems etc.
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