krisd32 Posted July 19, 2006 Posted July 19, 2006 just had a request to find out what is the best way to communicate between 2 buildings, there is only a 10m gap or so between them so i was askin for advice on what would be the fatest way to do this?
plexer Posted July 19, 2006 Posted July 19, 2006 How many computers in the other building? As it's only 10m throw some cat5 across the gap <--- joke Laser probably your best bet if you don't want to run a fibre across there. Ben
plexer Posted July 19, 2006 Posted July 19, 2006 But by fast do you mean installation speed or speed of the resulting link? Ben
ChrisC Posted July 19, 2006 Posted July 19, 2006 I would of said that, are the buildings already there or is it a new build? *By that I mean fibre* Also, is the 10m gap not counting the disatance to the nearest switch etc? Chris
Geoff Posted July 19, 2006 Posted July 19, 2006 As it's only 10m throw some cat5 across the gap That'd would cause a ground loop.
StewartKnight Posted July 19, 2006 Posted July 19, 2006 external CAT5 shouldn't be used to join 2 building together
plexer Posted July 19, 2006 Posted July 19, 2006 Yes which is why the answer was As it's only 10m throw some cat5 across the gap <--- joke I wouldn't advocate external or internal grade cat5 as a solution to bridge buildings ever as I've said in previous topics on this subject. Ben
ChrisC Posted July 19, 2006 Posted July 19, 2006 We have fibres hanging from the roofs of all the buildings here..... Chris
krisd32 Posted July 19, 2006 Author Posted July 19, 2006 I thought fibre would be the choice! the building was put up about 5 years ago or so, there will only be about 3 sockets for teachers only going in as it is only a small building! what are the speeds like with a wireless bridge between them? the nearest cabinet to that point is quite a distance thinking about it!
Geoff Posted July 19, 2006 Posted July 19, 2006 Why? As I said, you'd get a ground loop as the buildings aren't electrically connected. Net result is really bad SNR on the data connection.
everton4europe Posted July 19, 2006 Posted July 19, 2006 Fibre. But is there a route between the two buildings already in place. I had simular at a school and used an existing telecoms trench.
plexer Posted July 19, 2006 Posted July 19, 2006 Don't even think about wireless unless you want more headaches to contend with. The most reliable solution is to install a fibre between them. You could look into a laser system. Best bet is to get your local cabling firm to come and do a survey for you and make some recommendations based on the buidlings. @Disease: Well using copper between the 2 buildings would create a ground loop probably as has allready been said. But the less copper cabling you have running external the less chance of lightning strike etc... I know BT run copper all over the world but that their choice and telephone provision is different to data provision. Ben
Disease Posted July 19, 2006 Posted July 19, 2006 So when would you use External Cat5E then or i that a product on the market that is totally useless?
Geoff Posted July 19, 2006 Posted July 19, 2006 when you had to run cable from one part of the same building externally. eg, from one floor to another.
Jake Posted July 19, 2006 Posted July 19, 2006 I cant find anything on google about external catv specifically causing ground loops. Have you got some links regarding ground loops? Would like to know a bit more about them and ext catv
Blanka Posted July 19, 2006 Posted July 19, 2006 * Attaches some CAT5 cable to end of Harpoon Gun, takes Aim and FIRE! *
plexer Posted July 19, 2006 Posted July 19, 2006 If you have a switch in one building plugged into the mains and a switch in another connected to the mains joined by copper cable you have the possibility of a ground loop due to the buildings different earthing points. Joining the 2 switches with fibre gets rid of this effect due to the nature of a fibre optic. Ben
plexer Posted July 19, 2006 Posted July 19, 2006 http://www.epanorama.net/documents/groundloop/basics.html http://www.epanorama.net/documents/groundloop/datacom_isolation.html Ben
Jake Posted July 19, 2006 Posted July 19, 2006 I suppose that makes sense. So...assuming that budgets were tight, and wireless wasnt an option. Is there no alternative whatsoever to fibre?
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