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Your argument doesn't show how PAE/AWE is terrible though, or doesn't work...

 

Did I bring AWE into this? Lol

 

Use it as a starting point, move on Intel\AMD technical CPU architecture document, failing that, benchmark your system, then reinstall with the 64bit edition, re-benchmark. Click the little thank button.

 

It's hard to explain in simple terms but here goes:

In a 4GB setup and PAE, you will see a 3/1 split where three GB are accessible and one GB is used by the kernel to do the mapping. So, if you have 6GB you really have 5, since PAE needs the first GB for addressing to the higher registers. To accomplish this, you will notice a slight performance loss (around 2 to 5 percent overall) to handle it, since 64bit addressing requires a few extra operations in a 32bit CPU versus a native 64bit chip.

 

 

I wish people who just believe me!

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Did I bring AWE into this? Lol

 

By saying "32bit Enterprise is just a lie IMO, it's such a hack job. The 32bit architure addresses 4GB ram, fact. Plus you get a nice performance increase over the 32bit." yes, you did bring it into this...

 

Use it as a starting point, move on Intel\AMD technical CPU architecture document, failing that, benchmark your system, then reinstall with the 64bit edition, re-benchmark. Click the little thank button.

 

It's hard to explain in simple terms but here goes:

 

I wish people who just believe me!

 

No-one has said the system would lead to a system exactly the same performance, however, as 64bit is in an odd state of semi having 64bit support (ie. system manager, FMS etc... not being supported), 32bit with 8GB even with a little performance hit is better than 4GB memory.

 

I won't be moving to 64bit for SIMS.net on the server until it is 100% 64bit supported...

Posted (edited)

Fair enough about AWE.

 

I'm saying running SQL 64bit (and the rest of the server side), not the client. You should have any users using SIMS server. If you use terminal server, it should be on a separate server, which, should be 32bit.

 

PS: FMS etc are 32bit applications, so they will work, however Nova is still 16bit, and you still use it to print timetables :D

 

My point is, if you have a dedicated SIMS server with more then 4GB ram (and full MSSQL), like a lot of secondary's now, you should be looking at 64bit. There isn't any cost difference, and it seems pointless paying the extra to get Enterprise with no benefit other then reduced speed.

 

That point again, DON'T USE 64BIT for clients (just yet anyway)

 

Note Capita support 64bit servers.

Edited by matt40k
oh teh poor spekling!

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