GrumbleDook Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 Yep ... we had it yesterday. We have been waiting for it for a while, but why on earth right now. I was meant to be taking holiday on Friday (off to a concert in Manchester in the evening) and spending the day doing nice things at home ... So my external visits for today are cancelled, my day off is cancelled, my whole weekend is cancelled ... I will be sticking the details of what happens to the team, what work they have to do to prepare, what their impact is, etc ... I have to be interviewed as a matter of course (pleasures of being manglement) and hopefully I will be able to get a good insight in what they are looking for in schools with regards to ICT and supporting IT.
StewartKnight Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 I assume you mean ofsted. I wasn't interviewed when they came, they concentrated solely on teaching staff
_Bob_ Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 LOL Grumbledook. Which concert would this be? Honestly now...
indiegirl Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 *has an inkling of which concerts are on in Manchester on Friday night* ;-) We weren't bothered in the slightest when Ofsted/HMI (or however they're known now) came in.. or maybe that's because they wanted to keep them away from the NM... or possibly from me *evil grin*
ChrisC Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 We had ours before christmas, didn't come anywhere near us..... As has been said above, they concentrated on teaching. Mind you, we don't have a network manager, so there's no management issues. Chris
russdev Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 *has an inkling of which concerts are on in Manchester on Friday night* ;-) i dont even dare mention name of the band here poor Tony... We had ours before christmas, didn't come anywhere near us..... As has been said above, they concentrated on teaching. Mind you, we don't have a network manager, so there's no management issues. Chris Tony is a slut sorry mean slt ; ) as he is a ast head (you see i was good) so it means he had to be interviewed Russ
CyberNerd Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 Tony is a slut sorry mean slt ; ) as he is a ast head (you see i was good) so it means he had to be interviewed lol, we call those assistant head people As*heads - we have even labled switches/documentation to this effect - good job no-one reads it
GrumbleDook Posted May 4, 2006 Author Posted May 4, 2006 *has an inkling of which concerts are on in Manchester on Friday night* ;-) i dont even dare mention name of the band here poor Tony... But Robbie is rumoured to be turning up. I'm not sulking ... honest :-( We had ours before christmas, didn't come anywhere near us..... As has been said above, they concentrated on teaching. Mind you, we don't have a network manager, so there's no management issues. Chris Tony is a slut sorry mean slt ; ) as he is a ast head (you see i was good) so it means he had to be interviewed Russ Yep ... I will be interviewed ... rereading our SEF at the moment ... making sure I have all the facts and documentation to hand so that they can go off and track things.
NetworkGeezer Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 i dont even dare mention name of the band here poor Tony... Hmmm ... will they be any good if Robby isn't in it anymore Tony is a slut sorry mean slt ; ) as he is a ast head (you see i was good) so it means he had to be interviewed A spy among us :idea:
russdev Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 lol yes tony is smt team but he is non teaching memeber of staff who is on smt.. What did we work it out to be one of 3 in the uk Russ
ChrisC Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 A non-teaching assistant head??? When did that start happening? Chris
ChrisH Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 When the need for someone with a high level IT skills and experience is needed in senior management
GrumbleDook Posted May 4, 2006 Author Posted May 4, 2006 Nah ... there are starting to be quite a number of non-teaching assistant heads now ... quite often they are the Business Manager, but in some schools you also get IT Director / Director of ICT / eLearning Manager / and so on ... I think there were around 20 at my last count. And OFSTED aren't phased by it anymore either ... they have just shrugged their collective shoulders and gone "yes? and?" So ... there is a new target to aim for chaps and chappesses.
russdev Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 sorry meant 1 of 3 ict based non teaching ast heads bursers dont count russ
NetworkGeezer Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 sorry meant 1 of 3 ict based non teaching ast heads bursers dont count russ No they use Excel
GrumbleDook Posted May 4, 2006 Author Posted May 4, 2006 lol ... nope ... there are over 20 equivalent people who are Asst Heads looking after ICT stuff ... NCSL have courses now for Business Managers as senior leaders ... but nothing for us yet, however they do 'leading from the middle' for associate staff now, so it is a start.
StewartKnight Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 I don't think you have to convince OFSTED, it's teaching staff that wouldn't be able to get their head round it. All I have to say is "well done Tony"!!
GrumbleDook Posted May 4, 2006 Author Posted May 4, 2006 Most of our teachers are fine with it ... it gives them access to someone who is open to ideas and willing to share them, someone who is not bogged down with day to day support, someone who can fill in for other things when needed ... Thankfully the head of faculty of ICT and DT is helpful and we generally have a good working relationship. We both believe in devolved leadership for ICT and were very happy that when we went along to TeamSLICT we knew exactly what we need to do over the next few years ... it is just getting the right combination of time, people and money. I am sat here writing the timeline for what we have done over the last 3 years and what are plans are for the next 3-5 ... and it is scary ... We have spent a considerable amount of money and I am now justifying it ... some based on ICT results, some based on subject results in other areas ... most based on showing best practise. Roll on Wednesday
witch Posted May 5, 2006 Posted May 5, 2006 When the need for someone with a high level IT skills and experience is needed in senior management I would have thought that these days someone like this is always needed. There certainly isn't anyone like that in my schools, or the local secondarys. It is nice to see that someone is forward looking in this business! Good Luck with the beasts
Guest richard Posted May 10, 2006 Posted May 10, 2006 So ... there is a new target to aim for chaps and chappesses. Not here there isn't
budgester Posted May 26, 2006 Posted May 26, 2006 So ... there is a new target to aim for chaps and chappesses. Not here there isn't So are these people paid as Support Staff or Teaching Staff ? Because lets face it there is an awfull lot of difference between to the two pay scales.
russdev Posted May 26, 2006 Posted May 26, 2006 they are paid as non teaching assistant heads most of time which means wage is higher than senior network manager andi s inline with smt management paygrades but thy are often on lower grade than same teaching assistant heads but once more non teaching assistant heads then can ask to bring pay inline with teachers Russ
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