ICT_GUY Posted October 16, 2008 Posted October 16, 2008 My main DC updated last night. It completed the updates, Stalled on 100% with the do not turn off dialogue. Eventually I had to manually restart the server this morning which caused no end of problems with the server freezing solid when you logged in. Finally rebooted it into safe mode and ran scan disk on all drives. I then rebooted all of the servers, logged back in and left it for 10 minutes at which point it gave me a "failure to open security options dialogue" error. Rebooted it again and it seems to be fine. Nothing showing up in event viewer to say what went wrong either. Hell of a way to start the day. Server 2008 64bit edition. 1
ICT_GUY Posted October 16, 2008 Author Posted October 16, 2008 Sh!kes! There was language coming from a darkened cupboard, It too 30 minutes for it to cease.
zag Posted October 16, 2008 Posted October 16, 2008 Your pretty brave to be running your DC's on 2008 already! I wouldn't touch them for a couple of years yet personally.
ICT_GUY Posted October 16, 2008 Author Posted October 16, 2008 Your pretty brave to be running your DC's on 2008 already! I wouldn't touch them for a couple of years yet personally. they are up to service pack 1 already. They are no where near as clunky as 2003. The 64bit version just zips along. Login times are down to 5 seconds, 10 on the older systems.The old 2003 server was 45seconds - 3 minutes. New servers = time to change the whole network. Completely new AD.
PiqueABoo Posted October 16, 2008 Posted October 16, 2008 Hell of a way to start the day. Mmm.. so have you turned off automagic installation of updates now like the rest of us (who prefer to pick and choose when we have our disasters)? I got my very first blue screen the other day.. had been installing a few new features, then WebDav and an associated KB, but somewhere in there a couple of AU secfixes.. and it bluescreened when I shut it down (started up again OK though). I wonder.. They are no where near as clunky as 2003 ::shrug:: Very few fresh installs on (presumably) new h/w are as clunky as some box you've been abusing for years. I haven't seen anything scary about 2K8 yet. The only real drawback is the lack of quality info. Try googling for pretty much anything and there's truckloads of 'posturing' posts on the obvious shiny bits (e.g. bloggs with GBs of pointless screenshots that essentially amount to "I've played with X before you have! Na an na naah naaah!") or out at the other extreme, Powershell equivalents of Perl PGP sigs. Not a lot in the way of those quietly stated little tips and tricks that just makes admin's life easier - as in the stuff that really counts.
FN-GM Posted October 16, 2008 Posted October 16, 2008 Your pretty brave to be running your DC's on 2008 already! I wouldn't touch them for a couple of years yet personally. We are running server 2008, so its the Lancs GFL. Its a pretty solid OS
DMcCoy Posted October 16, 2008 Posted October 16, 2008 they are up to service pack 1 already. They are no where near as clunky as 2003. The 64bit version just zips along. Login times are down to 5 seconds, 10 on the older systems.The old 2003 server was 45seconds - 3 minutes. New servers = time to change the whole network. Completely new AD. 2008 here too, mostly it's fine Apart from MMCs which are unbelieveably sloooooooooooow. I've certainly had enough of the event viewer
FN-GM Posted October 16, 2008 Posted October 16, 2008 2008 here too, mostly it's fine Apart from MMCs which are unbelieveably sloooooooooooow. I've certainly had enough of the event viewer I agree they have over complicated many areas.
ICT_GUY Posted November 13, 2008 Author Posted November 13, 2008 Same thing happened again today, everything installs correctly but hangs on reboot. Its the 64bit version of server 2008, I shall be doing updates from now ar 3:15 to see if a manual reboot works. The other servers install and reboot fine.
ChrisH Posted November 13, 2008 Posted November 13, 2008 The only real drawback is the lack of quality info. Try googling for pretty much anything and there's truckloads of 'posturing' posts on the obvious shiny bits (e.g. bloggs with GBs of pointless screenshots that essentially amount to "I've played with X before you have! Na an na naah naaah!") or out at the other extreme, Powershell equivalents of Perl PGP sigs. Not a lot in the way of those quietly stated little tips and tricks that just makes admin's life easier - as in the stuff that really counts. I am waiting for Mark Minasi to come out with a new book. He hasnt let me down so far
ChrisH Posted November 13, 2008 Posted November 13, 2008 Make that 3 books The 2008 Books: An Overview They will be worth every penny though.
ICT_GUY Posted November 25, 2008 Author Posted November 25, 2008 Update: Its not the updates that are the problem, its rebooting in general. A few other people are reporting problems, BIOS & Driver updates along with Anti Virus are fingered as likely culprits. So That narrows it down some
ICT_GUY Posted November 25, 2008 Author Posted November 25, 2008 SMB 64 2008. I have removed NOD32 and the HP management software, it restarted just fine. I'm not convinced its fixed by a long way but memory usage has dropped back from 91% to 25%. I'm not at all happy with leaving the server vulnerable so I will have to do something smartish as I think nod32 is definitely at fault.
ahuxham Posted November 25, 2008 Posted November 25, 2008 SMB 64 2008. I have removed NOD32 and the HP management software, it restarted just fine. I'm not convinced its fixed by a long way but memory usage has dropped back from 91% to 25%. I'm not at all happy with leaving the server vulnerable so I will have to do something smartish as I think nod32 is definitely at fault. Isn't there a current open bug report related to ESET NOD32 and Server 2008. IIRC, I'm pretty sure there is a problem between the both of them. 1
ICT_GUY Posted November 25, 2008 Author Posted November 25, 2008 Isn't there a current open bug report related to ESET NOD32 and Server 2008. IIRC, I'm pretty sure there is a problem between the both of them. Could well be, my other 2008 server works just fine, but its the 32bit version of 2008 and has 4 gigs of ram.
ahuxham Posted November 26, 2008 Posted November 26, 2008 Could well be, my other 2008 server works just fine, but its the 32bit version of 2008 and has 4 gigs of ram. Does the 64 server run ok without NOD32 on it? You could always call them up and ask whats going on, it is a server after all and needs to be protected at all costs.
mattx Posted November 26, 2008 Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) Is it called NOD32 'cos it's 32bit ? 32bit running on a 64bit OS......... From M$: Can I run 32-bit programs on a 64-bit computer? Many programs designed for a computer running a 32-bit version of Windows will work on a computer running 64-bit versions of Windows without any changes. However, in some cases there might be differences in performance. If a 32-bit program uses embedded drivers, the drivers might not work in the 64-bit environment. If you have a 64-bit computer, it's best to run programs designed to run on a 64-bit computer. I have no plans on going 64bit yet 'cos of lack of drivers - if and when I do I will certainly be using as much 64 bit software as I can. I seem to remember many years ago 16bit macros killing 32bit citrix sessions - [ CPU hogging ] - also the big push on PII CPUs when they came out - 16bit OS's running on 32bit CPUs - whats the point ????!!!!! Edited November 26, 2008 by mattx
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