u8dmtm Posted April 12, 2006 Posted April 12, 2006 Wouldn't it be useful if there was an EduGeek facility which displayed up to date sugested baseline workstation specifications for different educational purposes (e.g. standard ICT suite, DT machine, Music machine) and for different platforms. This might help people who are unsure about what level of spec/value to go for. Here's my suggested machine spec for general use ICT suite (Windows) PCs: - Pentium IV 3.0Ghz - 1GB RAM - 80GB HDD - 128mb discrete graphics - 17ins Hard-glass TFT or 17ins CRT - Optical corded mouse - Black colour scheme (hides the fingerprints better) - 10/100/1000 NIC - Onsite warranty (if not covered by other SLA) Justifed by the need to future proof for Vista, provide a fast platform that can deal with any classroom software, will last for reasonable period of time (e.g. 4/5 years)
SteveT Posted April 12, 2006 Posted April 12, 2006 I dream of such a spec I won`t tell you what I dream about.....and a keyboard can come in handy sometimes!!! on a more serious note..... front mounted USB and headphone sockets are a must nowadays. MoBo must be PXE and USB bootable.
ajbritton Posted April 12, 2006 Posted April 12, 2006 Try these... - BIOS must be password protectable - All drivers to be supplied on CD-ROM or folder on HDD - Windows XP / Vista complient (when available) - Intel / 3COM LOM or NIC (you don't want the hassle I've had with SiS) - Sufficient free memory slots so that existing RAM can be doubled with no wastage - Security loop to fix unit to desk/wall etc. - Secure case (Dells are a bit too easy to open OOTB)
u8dmtm Posted April 12, 2006 Author Posted April 12, 2006 .....and a keyboard can come in handy sometimes!!! Something of a no-brainer though?
thom Posted April 12, 2006 Posted April 12, 2006 I agree. You efinately don't want to get less than 1GB of RAM nowadays But why not AMD CPUs? They are cheaper to begin with, perform better when compared to equivalent Intels and also cheaper to upgrade later.
Geoff Posted April 12, 2006 Posted April 12, 2006 But why not AMD CPUs? They are cheaper to begin with, perform better when compared to equivalent Intels and also cheaper to upgrade later. AMD64's also run a lot cooler. An important consideration when you have a roomful of them.
Andrew_C Posted April 12, 2006 Posted April 12, 2006 Wake on LAN For MFL lab, full AC97 sound (duplex)
Dos_Box Posted April 12, 2006 Posted April 12, 2006 I would not get P4s'. They are hot, slow and about to be binned (as a failed product) because the new core range kicks them into touch (PIII architecture too). I would have no qualms about going down the AMD route though as they are cheaper and give more bang for your buck. I would look at the Pentium D or any Intel duel processor chip though if you are tied to an Intel mentality.
Ric_ Posted April 12, 2006 Posted April 12, 2006 DUAL not 'duel'!!!! My baseline spec is: * 400MHz VIA/Transmeta processor * 128MB RAM * 64MB ROM * HP * 17" glass-front TFT (AG Neovo) I'm standardising everything to HP since I don't have any problems with it... the low spec is due to the nature of thin client terminals
free4440273 Posted April 12, 2006 Posted April 12, 2006 @thom: don't you effing 'efinately' me! how dare you!
plexer Posted April 12, 2006 Posted April 12, 2006 I've been buying NEC machines lately 2.9ghz processor, 512mb ram, 40-80gb h/drive, optical mice, hard glass neovo 17" tft's all black so look nice. Ben
Geoff Posted April 12, 2006 Posted April 12, 2006 You might want to spec up some 3d acclerated graphics card (mid range nvidia or ati is fine) if you want to be vista proof.
CyberNerd Posted April 12, 2006 Posted April 12, 2006 You might want to spec up some 3d acclerated graphics card (mid range nvidia or ati is fine) if you want to be vista proof. Most of my machines are already 'vista proof' - they'll never run vista ! b.t.w Isn't vista going to need DirectX10 hardware support ?? is this available?
Geoff Posted April 13, 2006 Posted April 13, 2006 Isn't vista going to need DirectX10 hardware support ?? is this available? Only in BillyG's mind.
ajbritton Posted April 13, 2006 Posted April 13, 2006 I thought Vista would work without the ultimate in video hardware but just not give you translucent windows (big *$% deal!)
ajbritton Posted April 13, 2006 Posted April 13, 2006 Google for 'vista hardware requirements' and follow the link to Microsoft. (sorry, my TV based browser won't let me copy the hyperlink!)
Ric_ Posted April 13, 2006 Posted April 13, 2006 Something at http://www.nvidia.com/page/technology_vista_main.html too about graphics and Vista.
CyberNerd Posted April 13, 2006 Posted April 13, 2006 sounds like to get full vista support I'll need a DX10 graphics card but will retain some backwards compatibility -except with OpenGL that is. Can't imagine DX10 will be ported to 2k/XP though.
CyberNerd Posted April 13, 2006 Posted April 13, 2006 Its all speculation until MS announce it, but I get the impression DirectX10/WGF2.0 is a major re-write and will be a good reason for gamers to upgrade. XP will probably get a few more updates to DX but I imagine they'd save the core graphics changes for vista only - otherwise why buy it. http://news.softpedia.com/news/DirectX-10-and-so-it-ends-7762.shtml http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1841223,00.asp
Geoff Posted April 13, 2006 Posted April 13, 2006 No, it's just implemented slightly differently in Vista. Vista will have DX10 with a DX9 compatability layer. XP gets a version DX10 which will install alongside DX9. Thus XP is actually better for gaming because they didn't break OpenGL support.
Richie1972 Posted May 6, 2006 Posted May 6, 2006 I don't see any reason to go to Vista for about 2 years anyway. All our existing software works fine on XP, all software in the pipeline for the next few years will have to support XP for the majority of people out there. Vista won't offer us anything new in an educational area and i wouldn't touch a new OS until SP1 came out just to make sure it was stable enough for our environment. Our PCs are pretty much all Celeron P4 2.0GHz up to a couple of P4 3.2GHz, so they should at least handle the basics if, in a few years time, we decide to go over to Vista
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