Abacus Evolve Interactive Planner (Ginn/Harcourt Education)

[witch]

I am having real problems with this. The install fails when it gets to the Microsoft SQL Server Desktop Engine, and all the log file says is "Action Ended Install Return Value 3.

I have been on the microsoft website and tried most things, and the engineer from the company took over the computer (which is on a workgroup) and he couldn't fix it either.

The only solution offered is to reformat the computer and reinstall XP which seems a bit drastic and does not seem to offer a definite solution. Has anyone else had this problem?

Of course, in the usual 'failure happens in full view' mode, this computer belongs to the deputy head and she is being so 'nice' about it. :oops:

 

I hope someone can help

[Guest]

Had the same problem when I was trying to install onto a W2K3 box with M$SQL already running with a database.

 

If I remeber I stoped all sql services prior to the install, and the install went fine.

 

How are you installing?

[witch]

Installing off a CD - all sql services stopped before install- and also stopped antivirus and other things suggested on microsoft site - no go

[Guest]

Some info from their support site regarding SQL installaion problems.

 

I am installing Abacus Evolve I-Planner at home on a machine that is not part of a network (domain) or workgroup and am receiving the following error:

‘Microsoft SQL-DMO (ODBC SQLState:HYT00) - [Microsoft][ODBCSQL Server Driver] timeout expired'.

 

Answer:

To resolve this issue you need to open Windows Explorer > Tools menu > Folder Options > View tab > tick the box for "Use simple file sharing" (right at the bottom) and then uninstall MSDE via Add or Remove Programs in the Control Panel, the entry will be called "Microsoft SQL Server Desktop Engine (HALLEY)". You can then run the I-Planner installer again and all should fine. Need more information? Email software support, or phone our team on 01865 888005.

 

 

 

I am installing Abacus Evolve I-Planner and receive following error:

"Microsoft SQL Server Desktop Engine

Setup failed to configure the server. Refer to server error logs and setup error logs for more info.

 

SQL Server instance status

Cannot find service for instance (MSQL$HALLEY)

 

Database creation error setup was unable to create the evolve database. Installation of content cannot proceed."

 

Answer:

This is a rare error and occurs when an install of I-Planner has been attempted in the past and it has gone wrong. You will probably only see this if you have uninstalled the software and tried again.

 

It is because remnants of the old database are still installed on your computer. There will be no entry in Add or Remove Programs for the iPlanner MSDE as its not been configured.

 

Step 1: Open "My Computer" and navigate to and delete the following folder and sub-folders:

 

C:\Program Files\Abacus Evolve Teachers\Abacus Evolve I-Planner Server

 

Step 2: Re-install Abacus Evolve i-Planner ensuring you tick the box during install whereby the installer creates a new database and doesn't use an existing SQL Server instance.

 

Please refer this to your school ICT Technician if you're unsure about any part of the resolution or call ICT Support. Please note you will not get this error if you have successfully installed other years of iPlanner as you would already have a database created, this problem will only affect you the first time you install the software.

[witch]

Yes, I know, I have tried all that, and as I say, one of their own engineers has taken control of the machine and has looked for all that - there is nothing that anyone can find left behind on the machine, and file sharing is enabled.

Any other ideas?

[Guest]

Tried it on another machine?

[witch]

It has been installed on all the teachers laptops with no problems at all. This is the only PC that it is on so I dont know if the problem will replicate. Currently putting XP on an old admin server (we are very short of money) and will be installing it on that so we will see.

[chrbb]

Did you ever esolve this? Got the same problem on a new xp pro sp3 machine.

[CHR1S]

Is this for stand alone installs only or networked?

[chrbb]

Standalones.

[CHR1S]

I only have the network installs to test on im afraid, so ill be of no use to you.

 

The error message given is very generic, but seems to point to the MSI... (well from 5 mins of googling it does)....

Good luck....

[sted]

have you tried running the ms uninstaller cleanup and removing any bits that may be part installed

 

Description of the Windows Installer CleanUp Utility

 

there is probably a rogue registy entry

 

this is an awful piece of software though and if you ever rename the pc it will fail (unless you regedit it though i just change that to 127.0.0.1 anyway as then i can make a ghost package of edit and distribute easily (obviously installing to standalone pcs) and as it still dosent work on vista this package works in vpc2007 as well so the staff with vista laptops will soon be able to run it again when i have finished twiddling the vm

[Andie]

I've got a problem with this lovely software now that I've installed SP3 to the XP machines. These are also standalone installs. Different error message: I-Planner failed to connect to the Evolve Datastore. That one is in the installation guide that came with the CDs but the resolutions don't match the scenario. However, the event logs on the machines are throwing up SQL errors. About to work through possible resolutions. Will post back if I get anywhere!

[Andie]

I've fixed my problem using Resolution 1 from the Interactive Planner Installation Guide page 26. Full details have been posted to new thread here:

 

http://www.edugeek.net/forums/educational-software/36293-fix-abacus-evolve-planner-error-running-standalone-after-installing-xp-sp3.html#post338650

[chrbb]

I've found out why my abacus evolve failed on one machine - it has an amd triple core phenom cpu which I've now found out is incompatible with msde 2000. I've managed to install sql server express 2005 using a microsoft fix, but it doesn't work on msde 2000. I have a similar problem with ICT alive which uses msde 2000 and according to RM support Ict alive will not work with any other sql edition.

[SYNACK]

I've found out why my abacus evolve failed on one machine - it has an amd triple core phenom cpu which I've now found out is incompatible with msde 2000. I've managed to install sql server express 2005 using a microsoft fix, but it doesn't work on msde 2000. I have a similar problem with ICT alive which uses msde 2000 and according to RM support Ict alive will not work with any other sql edition.

 

It all depends on how they have implemented their checks for the database engine, SQL 2003 or 2008 will happliy respond to the same instructions that 2000 used in most instances. It may just be a case of installing SQL express as a default instance (one without a name) so that it looks like a MSDE install. As long as it just checks for localhost database connectivity instead of reg keys then it may just work.

[chrbb]

No I've tried that, installed sql express, then attemped ict alive again no go.

[SYNACK]

The standard SQL express install adds a named instance, the default is SQLEXPRESS$ and also leaves some of the communication methods like named pipes disabled. In order to make it look like MDSE you would need to do a custom install as the default (no name) instance and enable named pipes. It probably checks some reg keys anyhow that would be specific to MSDE. I do think that it would be doable but it would take a fair bit of effort to track everything down in order to trick it. For the time involved it may not be worth it.

 

Is your new Phenom running Windows 7, if so XP mode would probably get around the issues by hiding the true hardware setup from the picky old apps.

[chrbb]

It's xp, I've done the change the numproc to 1 in boot ini.

I've installed ict alive minus the datastore on the computer and am just running the datastore on a different computer - sort of peer to peer, it's a solution of sorts but just a bodge to get old software working. I suppose I could install it on the server (2003) and run it as a client/server but I don't have much faith in the software not to muck up my server and sophos console!

[SYNACK]

@chrbb - You got it going, thats the main thing

[chrbb]

Lol yes but it's not the point is it?

[SYNACK]

@chrbb - I aim for survival, anything else is a bonus

[sted]

depending on machine spec/number of pcs etc id be tempted just to install virtual pc on the pc then and install it on that thats how im running it on vista/7 pcs although aparently (according to someone else at work) if you phone up and say all our servers are2008 they will provide you a new version but again apparently thats utter pap too

[chrbb]

depending on machine spec/number of pcs etc id be tempted just to install virtual pc on the pc then and install it on that thats how im running it on vista/7 pcs although aparently (according to someone else at work) if you phone up and say all our servers are2008 they will provide you a new version but again apparently thats utter pap too

 

I'm a bit confused, how would it install on a virtual pc if it doesn't install on the actual pc because of it's cpu? Sorry to sound dumb!

[sted]

I'm a bit confused, how would it install on a virtual pc if it doesn't install on the actual pc because of it's cpu? Sorry to sound dumb!

 

because virtual pc emulates a single core pc