Teacher access to student OneDrives?

[jblackburnHWGA]

Computer science need to get access to the student OneDrives so they can track and mark coursework.

 

My current idea is to just make a guide for students to follow where they share their computer science folder with the teachers. The Teachers can then go back to the folder probably for the rest of that students time at the school.

 

I'm just wondering if there is a better way anyone knows of before we go off getting 175 e-mails with onedrive links in.

I had a thought i could script to allow the allstaff or all teaching groups to have access to the general folder for all students. Then i thought maybe MS EDU had already implemented something i'm just not aware of.

 

We are completely cloud based so there is no file server to utilise.

[foofighterjim]

I'm trying to jog my memory but wouldn't a class based Teams group do a better job of this? You could use the class OneNote to keep submissions private.

[Mako]

The premise of OneDrive is for one's own work, and one has the ability to share access at one's leisure. It's not geared for automatic and widespread access. It's a faff even to get access as an administrator as you go chasing those links on a per-user basis.

 

It's not designed for mass-access on a whim. As @foofighterjim has suggested, Teams is designed for this purpose. I wouldn't advise bending the tool to do the job you want, but to use the right tool for the job.

 

To offer a tangible solution if Teams is a no-go: Before Covid and the general use of Teams, we did do something similar however you have to flip the ownership. Teachers would make folders in THEIR OneDrive, and then share the individual access with the students. As the files live in the staff member's drive, they have access all the time and can do the things you want.

 

Now that Teams is a thing (well, it always has been, but you know what I mean) we use that for class work/coursework etc. Far better solution.

[psydii]

Class Teams are definitely the way to go. Once the first (dummy) assignment has been set for a class, all the folders you need are set up. Head over to the "Student Work" Document Library, in there you will find a "Working Files" folder with all the student folders, secured so that only the student and the team owners can accesss.

 

They can then work directly in these (sync'd to their computer if they need to use classic Windows apps that don't talk 'onedrive'), for course that are mainly Office document based, then setting normal assignments would be the way to go.

[jblackburnHWGA]

We have teams and use it for all subjects. I think my problem is I'm stuck in the past lol

 

Any guides or key words i need to search and research would be great. I've had a look in a few teams where assignments have been used and have found the student work areas.

I guess what i don't know is how the teachers and students need to use this function to work on big projects. I under stand a basic homework or lesson based assignment.

 

For example in this case its around building a basic website. The kids are making the website on Dreamweaver and creating the design docs etc. They're saving and working from their OneDrive.

I need to figure out how to change their current practice so they're using teams to work on the project live and not personal OneDrive space.

[mavhc]

Could share a folder instead of a file

[psydii]

Seating plans so they use the same computer each lesson. Sync the Student Work folder during their first lesson (it will only pull down that student's folder due to sharepoint permissions magic), then they just work in there.

 

However if you are building websites with Dreamweaver, and if Dreamweaver codes in absolute paths, this will all fall apart. I expect however they will all be relative urls and so should be just fine.

 

The Teacher will need to also sync the student work folders for each of their classes to their teaching machine/laptop. However, there is a possibility in this specific case the webpages might work straight out of the sharepoint folders on the web... which would be a pretty cool demo of some very old tech running on some very new tech based on some very old tech.

 

Side note: Sharepoint's foundations are actually a Microsoft product that competed with Dreamweaver back in the late 1990's.

[mavhc]

http://underpop.online.fr/d/dreamweaver/help/setting-relative-path-of-new-links-adobe-dreamweaver.htm.gz

 

Default seems to be relative links

[Boredguy]

Computer science need to get access to the student OneDrives so they can track and mark coursework.

 

My current idea is to just make a guide for students to follow where they share their computer science folder with the teachers. The Teachers can then go back to the folder probably for the rest of that students time at the school.

 

I'm just wondering if there is a better way anyone knows of before we go off getting 175 e-mails with onedrive links in.

I had a thought i could script to allow the allstaff or all teaching groups to have access to the general folder for all students. Then i thought maybe MS EDU had already implemented something i'm just not aware of.

 

We are completely cloud based so there is no file server to utilise.

 

We use Teams for this since access to OneDrive via URL link in the admin portal is only for Admin users, and while each student could share a folder in their OneDrive, it's a lot to maintain.

 

Each student has a folder within the Channel's Files, and we remove the " Members" permission from each students folder and directly assign that students account to have modify rights.

That way the other kids can't access anyone else's work, but the teacher can easily see them all.

[FN-GM]

However if you are building websites with Dreamweaver, and if Dreamweaver codes in absolute paths, this will all fall apart. I

 

 

As a student in the mid 2000’s we did the exact same in dreamweaver and if we did the above we would get 0 marks.

[mullet_man]

Although it's a bit of manual work we create a private channel on the class Team, give the student and teacher access to the channel. Give the teacher/s access to all of them.

 

Then each student has a channel where the teacher and student can chat in private about the work and save any files in the files section. Done it this way for a few years and works for us.

 

Students can use Teams app to work on their coursework.

[KK20]

I have a script that adds a dynamic group as site collector admin on student onedrive - ive wrote about this before on here (somewhere). Then I can add staff to the dynamic group for access. I generate a CSV for the student onedrive links and publish this in a sharepoint library that is locked down to the same group. Since we are hybrid, this script runs when the 365 -> AD email link is updated, I would advise against running this script regularly en masse as you will probably get throttled calling a lot of small hits on APIs (depends on your student numbers of course!)

 

The likes of salamander do the same sort if thing I believe.

Edited December 15, 2022 by KK20

[mavhc]

This thread? http://www.edugeek.net/forums/cloud-services/219987-pupil-onedrive-access-teachers.html

[KK20]

thats it. groups were added as a supported measure at some point as I now use a dynamic group. Speed is much much quicker when you only need to add two members (dont forget the service account!)