this item on our OVS license only has 3 results in google

[browolf]

It is "Microsoft 365 Apps for enterprise open student"

 

I'm trying to find out how we have it. I think it was free because we have Office professional Plus. I'm having trouble verifying this thought with online proof.

 

This is our current ovs

 

 

Any ideas?

[willtech]

They will be on your office 365 tenant in the licensing area if they have been activated. If not they are activated in the online services area I think in vlsc. Unless you have A1 Plus which is the same as it’s A1 with office on top. Edited January 30, 2022 by willtech

[browolf]

They will be on your office 365 tenant in the licensing area if they have been activated. If not they are activated in the online services area I think in vlsc. Unless you have A1 Plus which is the same as it’s A1 with office on top.

 

We've had it for years afaik

 

 

we have A1 and A1 plus and some A3 we just got for minecraft

 

 

apparently "Schools qualify for Office 365 A1 Plus when they license Office institution-wide"

Edited January 30, 2022 by browolf

[Steve21]

It's the old ProPlus before they changed/renamed it all. If you're running A3 it gives you nothing new so we just ignore it

 

Edit - Just noticed you said you only had a few for MC so guess it's not so ignorable but yes still old ProPlus

 

Steve

Edited January 30, 2022 by Steve21

[browolf]

With that name I found this that explains it: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/education/deploy/office-365-education-self-sign-up

[browolf]

It's the old ProPlus before they changed/renamed it all. If you're running A3 it gives you nothing new so we just ignore it

 

Edit - Just noticed you said you only had a few for MC so guess it's not so ignorable but yes still old ProPlus

 

Steve

 

 

 

With regard to server core licenses, does this show 16x server standard core licenses or 1 server standard core license for 16 cores?

 

 

[Koldov]

Blows my mind (not difficult) every time I read it. It's like I understand the words individually but I have no clue what they mean.... but my bold is the basic understanding I took when we licensed (we have 2 servers and so our MVLSC shows 'Windows Server Standard Core - 32')...

 

"Core licenses are sold in packs of two (a 2-pack of Core Licenses), and packs of 16 (a 16-pack of Core Licenses). Each processor needs to be licensed with a minimum of eight core licenses (four 2-packs). Each physical server, including single-processor servers, will need to be licensed with a minimum of 16 Core Licenses (eight 2-packs or one 16-pack). One core license must be assigned for each physical core on the server. Additional cores can then be licensed in increments of two packs or 16 packs ."

 

EDIT:

 

Server 1 has this - Processor - Intel® Xeon® CPU E5-2440 v2 @ 1.90GHz, 1900 Mhz, 8 Core(s), 16 Logical Processor(s)

 

Server 2 has this - Processor - 2 x Intel® Xeon® CPU E5620 @ 2.40GHz, 2394 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s) (so 8 Cores, 16 Logical Processors total)

 

I think we are covered (possibly overly so, but if a Physical server needs a minimum of 16 then we couldn't get any less)? Hopefully someone else can translate MS to English...

Edited January 31, 2022 by Koldov

[Steve21]

Short answer to both of those is take it down the line in this order

 

1 - it’s a minimum 16 core needed per server

2 - If you have multiple processors it’s 8 min per CPU

3 - if you have more cores in the server they all need covering

 

So whichever of those three is highest normally counts

 

For example,

 

1x 4 core = 16

2x 4 core = 16

3x 4 core = 24 (min 8 per cpu)

 

1x 4 core and 1x 10 core (dual cpu server) = 18 (8 min + 10 etc)

 

Steve

[browolf]

Short answer to both of those is take it down the line in this order

 

1 - it’s a minimum 16 core needed per server

2 - If you have multiple processors it’s 8 min per CPU

3 - if you have more cores in the server they all need covering

 

So whichever of those three is highest normally counts

 

For example,

 

1x 4 core = 16

2x 4 core = 16

3x 4 core = 24 (min 8 per cpu)

 

1x 4 core and 1x 10 core (dual cpu server) = 18 (8 min + 10 etc)

 

Steve

 

we have 3 hosts running vmware. Each host has 2 processors with 8 cores. each host has on average 6vms.

by my reckoning we need 1 license per host plus an additional 6 licenses to cover the extra vms.

 

What's confusing is our OVS renewal quote says we only paid for 1 license.

 

I checked with microsoft and they say we have 16 licenses.

[Steve21]

It depends on the specifics in terms of versions etc, but generally:

 

1 host with 2x 8 core = 16 so 48 to cover 3 hosts

 

If you’re using standard, they only cover 2 vms, so if you need need 6 per host, you either need 16 x 3 per host (eg 16 cores l, and 6/2 vms)

 

Aka 16 cores * 3 hosts * 6/2 VMs (if using standard version)

 

Or 16 cores * 3 hosts (data centre license for unlimited VMs)

 

So sounds like you are a bit off

 

Regarding the OVS it’s not licenses it’s core pack, so you could buy 1x 16 cores, that’s 1 item on invoice but would show as 16 etc

 

Steve

[browolf]

 

Regarding the OVS it’s not licenses it’s core pack, so you could buy 1x 16 cores, that’s 1 item on invoice but would show as 16 etc

 

Steve

 

There was 1 on the invoice as "WinSvrSTDCore ALNG LicSAPk OLV 16Lic F 1Y Acdmc AP CoreLic" and it shows as 16 on the vlsc but when I asked microsoft if was 1 license or 16 licenses they said "We confirm by this that you have 16 licenses of Windows Server Standard Core 2022. Meaning you may install this product on 16 servers." 🤔

[Steve21]

There was 1 on the invoice as "WinSvrSTDCore ALNG LicSAPk OLV 16Lic F 1Y Acdmc AP CoreLic" and it shows as 16 on the vlsc but when I asked microsoft if was 1 license or 16 licenses they said "We confirm by this that you have 16 licenses of Windows Server Standard Core 2022. Meaning you may install this product on 16 servers." 🤔

 

That’s one pack of 16 cores, so basically one physical server (up to 2x 8 core / 1x 16 core), and as Standard can only run 2 VMs on it

 

Steve

[browolf]

That’s one pack of 16 cores, so basically one physical server (up to 2x 8 core / 1x 16 core), and as Standard can only run 2 VMs on it

 

Steve

 

so we paid the supplier for 1 pack but the supplier paid microsoft for 16?

[Steve21]

so we paid the supplier for 1 pack but the supplier paid microsoft for 16?

 

No. They're sold in packs of 2 or 16 cores. You bought 1 pack of 16 cores, that's it.

 

Steve

[browolf]

No. They're sold in packs of 2 or 16 cores. You bought 1 pack of 16 cores, that's it.

 

Steve

 

so when microsoft said 16 licenses they really meant 16 servers of 1 core each?

[Steve21]

so when microsoft said 16 licenses they really meant 16 servers of 1 core each?

 

No because you can't license it that way either As it's 16 min per server.

 

Honestly just sounds like whoever you spoke to didn't have a clue about server licensing

 

Steve

[browolf]

No because you can't license it that way either As it's 16 min per server.

 

Honestly just sounds like whoever you spoke to didn't have a clue about server licensing

 

Steve

 

I opened a microsoft support enquiry with our vlsc code. You know it's confusing when microsoft themselves can't make sense of it haha 🤦♂️ 😅

 

I appreciate your help

[Steve21]

I opened a microsoft support enquiry with our vlsc code. You know it's confusing when microsoft themselves can't make sense of it haha 🤦♂️ 😅

 

I appreciate your help

 

Yep there's too many "support" at MS who don't get it really. Unless you find one of the server guys who actually understand the cores etc

 

If you want to confirm what I said earlier, just use one of the calcs available via Dell/HP etc to check: https://techlibrary.hpe.com/us/en/enterprise/servers/licensing/index.aspx

 

So in your example, 2 CPU (8 cores each) with 6 VM - That's 48core "per HOST" to license if using Standard (e.g. 3x 16 pack):

 

Steve

[KK20]

As others have said. SKU 9EM-00293 is named WinSvrSTDCore ALNG LicSAPk OLV 16Lic F 1Y Acdmc AP CoreLic we have two of these on our license that is because I have a pair of R630 dual 4 core CPU servers. Each of my server has no VMs on them and they each have 2xCPU with a total of 8 cores (a physical DC and an "offline/offdomain" backup controller). So I need a full 16 core license per server hence me having 2x licenses.

 

I also have 4x WinSvrDCCore ALNG LicSAPk OLV 16Lic F 1Y Acdmc AP CoreLic as I have 12 VMs on a stretched cluster. Each server has 2x8 core CPUs so a single license per server is adequate. It is a DC license so I can put as many VMs as I like (they are fairly lightweight ones so 16 cores is plenty for us).

 

Ignore for the fact that you need DC for a stretch cluster (lets pretend). But if I wanted to run the cluster on STD licensing I would need the following:

 

max VMs on a server = 11 - round up to 12 as each license covers you for 2x VMs per license. 2x8 CPU per server so a 16lic license is good enough. I would need 6x std licenses per server x4 for my cluster so 24 16lic licenses.

 

Incidentally we also have a free licensed hyper-v server that only runs linux VMs, that has no "paid for" licensing as hyper-v server is free in this scenario of linux only VMs.

Edited February 9, 2022 by KK20

[paulkerton]

so when microsoft said 16 licenses they really meant 16 servers of 1 core each?

 

No they meant a single physical server with either 2 x 8 core processors or 1 x 16 core processor in it.

As I've said many times before, most of Microsoft's staff don't understand how their licensing works, its not unreasonable that everyone else has trouble too.