HPlum78 Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 But please tell me it ain't! https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2020/10/02/exchange2010_servers_exposed/
3s-gtech Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 I like to think of the sysadmins still running this, and other EoL (and near EoL) systems as devil-may-care adrenaline junkies. They abseil, paraglide, base jump and free-climb in their few off days - otherwise they’re travelling to work on a motorbike (no leathers) and drinking black coffee by the shot. They don’t care about the risks of getting the server rinsed over the weekend - they live in a twitchy, twilight world where any Monday may bring a “is email down?” sudden pulse raiser. They welcome it. The reality may be somewhat more mundane. 🧐 2
elsiegee40 Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 But, as per the thread about Windows 7, if the sysadmins running these systems aren’t being given the money, time or kit to upgrade then change won’t happen. I am willing to bet that many of these sites have frustrated IT staff waiting for an “I told you so” moment. Many of them probably had multiple predecessors who were also ignored. 4
HPlum78 Posted October 2, 2020 Author Posted October 2, 2020 @3s-gtech made my snort out my GnT reading your reply and @elsiegee40 your comments are always level headed and tell the story of IT.
3s-gtech Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 I reckon that’s less likely than with 7, in seriousness. Exchange is more likely to be on a yearly renewal (no guarantees, of course), and anyone technical enough to set up and run it is more likely to know the risks of running it past its life. I’d think that many of these are servers that have been: Built by a contractor, then left to run (unpatched [emoji32]) Forgotten about (vast numbers of Edge servers in an organisation that isn’t organised) Orphaned (sitting there set up but now unused) I’d love to know how the numbers break down (somehow).
elsiegee40 Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) Probably because I started my career on punch cards and so long ago that I have worn the toga, never mind the t shirt, for all this type of thing. It was ever thus... Edited October 2, 2020 by elsiegee40 1
aicrd Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 Hate to say it but I'm probably one of those. We migrated all to Office 365 however still have the Exchange 2010 host up and running as a lot of internal stuff depends on it. Hopefully gonna nuke it soon.
jmak Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 I'm thinking that the 54,000 that haven't been updated for 6 years probably haven't got a tech maintaining them. It did make me smile that they express surprise/disapproval that 77% of Exchange 2019 don't have the latest update. And in the meantime, MS are investigating issues with O365 exchange online and OWA, with buggy updates being one of the candidates for the cause of the problem. I wonder why sys admins don't install the latest patch straight away... Also from that article (but not really on topic [emoji849]) it suggests that if you want to use Azure AD Connect to sync AD with mail accounts you need an onsite Exchange server. Did I read that wrong or is my set up magic?
aicrd Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 You only need an Exchange server if you want Hybrid mail (Some users on premise, others in Exchange Online) 1
howartp Posted October 5, 2020 Posted October 5, 2020 Nope, not me, definitely not me... Ask me again last week and it might possibly have... (Migrated to 2016 in summer but only decommissioned 2010 last week!)
paulkerton Posted October 5, 2020 Posted October 5, 2020 I am willing to bet that many of these sites have frustrated IT staff waiting for an “I told you so” moment. Many of them probably had multiple predecessors who were also ignored. They probably are, but "I told you so" moments can often go hand-in-hand with "doesn't matter that we didn't fund it, we're going to put you through disciplinary" moments. I do hope that isn't the case, but you see it happen so, so often when people without understanding of the things they are ultimately in charge of, are put in charge of them.
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