sted Posted January 23, 2019 Posted January 23, 2019 https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/jan/23/dont-trust-daily-mail-website-microsoft-browser-warns-users edge (mobile for now) will pop up a warning if you visit new sites that are deemed untrustworthy. Interesting idea but as always with any sort of ranking or curation system i have to assume that its possible to get sites categorized wrong 2
browolf Posted January 23, 2019 Posted January 23, 2019 It's ironic that the Daily Mail is owned by a company called "General Trust plc"!
CAM Posted January 23, 2019 Posted January 23, 2019 If you can't see it, go to the Play store and update manually. Activate it in Settings > News Guard. I had a good chuckle seeing this. Keep your eyes posted though as The S*n is currently being vetted by Newsguard.
Arthur Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 As expected... Daily Mail demands browser warning U-turn
DJ-1701 Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 As expected... Daily Mail demands browser warning U-turn Yeah, and the public demand better quality news services.
dcwhitworth Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 They have no one but themselves to blame in every way - "Our journalist analysts always contact websites if they get a negative rating on any of our nine journalistic criteria. The Mail Online chose not to reply," co-chief executive Gordon Crovitz, who used to oversee the Wall Street Journal's business and journalism operations, told the BBC. 3
sted Posted January 24, 2019 Author Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) there is also a plugin for chrome. that works pretty well it even shows a quick green, blue or red shield on articles linked on twitter (so for example YouTube & Wikipedia are blue hover over it and it says something like cant be verified as user created hover over say kotaku and its green and shows you why. Its ludicrous that a gaming website has better journalistic standards than a daily newspaper chrome plugin https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/newsguard/hcgajcpgaalgpeholhdooeddllhedegi Edited January 24, 2019 by sted
Duke5A Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 I can name a couple headlines that major news organizations ran with and got horribly wrong here in the States in the last week alone. I don't see how you can trust a plugin or any other tech solution to this - they're all curated lists. Trustworthy news is a goalpost that slides on ideological rails.
stevejp Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 Yeah, and the public demand better quality news services. But that's the problem, isn't it. 'The public' don't demand better quality news services - 'the public' (or enough of them to make a difference) seem to be quite happy with the rubbish spouted by the Mail, the Sun and the Express, and believe every word - which is one of the reasons why the country is going to hell in a handcart!
rich_tech Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 Thats genuinely funny about the mail, app sounds a good idea largely because all of these "news sources" seem to be getting lazy and just copy pasting off any and all manner of websites like twitter/facebook, noticed it when a complaint I made about rotten turkey at chrismas on twitter was dragged into a wider story by them without any asking if I minded being included up front(I know its a public website and all that but that pee'd me right off at the time, they didnt have the courtesy to DM about it).
dcwhitworth Posted January 25, 2019 Posted January 25, 2019 But that's the problem, isn't it. 'The public' don't demand better quality news services - 'the public' (or enough of them to make a difference) seem to be quite happy with the rubbish spouted by the Mail, the Sun and the Express, and believe every word - which is one of the reasons why the country is going to hell in a handcart! I don't believe most people do believe every word. I bet most people believe the papers spout rubbish a lot of the time but that they are able to tell when and are unaffected by it. Research however shows that people who believe they are not affected by biased reporting are actually the most vulnerable to it.
dcwhitworth Posted January 25, 2019 Posted January 25, 2019 I can name a couple headlines that major news organizations ran with and got horribly wrong here in the States in the last week alone. I don't see how you can trust a plugin or any other tech solution to this - they're all curated lists. Trustworthy news is a goalpost that slides on ideological rails. I think there's a difference between getting it wrong and bad standards. You can get it wrong by extrapolating to the wrong conclusions in good faith from available data (Dewey defeats Truman !) or in several other ways without necessarily being untrustworthy in the long run. It is (or should be if it's a decent plug in) long term behaviour that gets the rating not individual errors. And no you shouldn't trust a plug in or indeed anything tech 100%, that's when the trouble starts.
DJ-1701 Posted January 25, 2019 Posted January 25, 2019 People are using Edge?! Of course they are, how do they download a different browser otherwise?
Arthur Posted January 25, 2019 Posted January 25, 2019 People are using Edge?! I bet it's David Howell Evans' favourite browser! [emoji16] 1
Duke5A Posted January 25, 2019 Posted January 25, 2019 Of course they are, how do they download a different browser otherwise? There is a meme for everything. 2
CAM Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 People are using Edge?! I use it at work and on my phone. It's a decent browser. Only reason I don't use it at home is because I heavily use Chromecast.
Arthur Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 Mail Online web browser warning reversed A web browser warning that said the Daily Mail's website failed to maintain "basic standards of accuracy or accountability" has been changed. The newspaper had complained that the NewsGuard plug-in gave its Mail Online website a negative review. NewsGuard now gives Mail Online a positive green shield after discussions with a Daily Mail executive. But the company said Mail Online still failed to gather and present information responsibly.
3s-gtech Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 Those ‘discussions’ involved the phrases ‘our lawyers’ ‘damages’ ‘reputation’ and ‘liability’, I have no doubt. Shame they were able to bully their way out of this.
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