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So I've logged on to our test system and created a test start menu tile layout!

 

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However when the students policy pulls down the XML it looks like this:

 

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The XML file is:

 

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Yes - it's problematic on all builds of Windows 10; which is why Classic Shell is very preferable.

Agreed, you can sink many hours into trying to get the native menu working whereas Classic Start is a breeze (with more control, flexibility and functionality)

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Trust me when I say I have many years of experience and I lost many hours trying to get it to work :)

 

I don't think anyone (even on Edugeek) has demonstrated a working/consistent method you can deploy with an image, but also easily change the layout once machines are deployed.

 

For example, you have numerous Office 2016 shortcuts, but then how easy will it be to replace/update these with Office 2018/19 shortcuts when it arrives? With Classic Shell it's very straight forward and consistent.

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[ATTACH=CONFIG]40126[/ATTACH]

 

:)

 

with All Programs just a redirect to the desktop folder !!

 

Indeed you can do this! :) Why Microsoft haven't done this natively is just beyond me!

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Mine works just fine (W10 education, 1607), I even have some network stored URLs in there that also work (the image also has the shortcut for IE created). The key is how you save the file, it MUST be saved as encoding type UTF-8

 

xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/Start/2014/LayoutModification"

xmlns:defaultlayout="http://schemas.microsoft.com/Start/2014/FullDefaultLayout"

xmlns:start="http://schemas.microsoft.com/Start/2014/StartLayout"

xmlns:taskbar="http://schemas.microsoft.com/Start/2014/TaskbarLayout"

Version="1">

 

I should note that it has always worked for me even in 1511. I moved to 1607 as I wanted to change the taskbar pinned items easily too.

Edited by KK20
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Unfortunately it's not as clear cut as that - Start look for shortcuts (reading other posts), in other areas of the system (ProgramData) top of my head. What makes it worse is it gives different results on different users, different devices all built from the same core image. It's just an absolute disaster and Microsoft (it appears) don't seem to acknowledge it in the slightest.

 

At the very least if so many professionals are struggling to create a custom/deployable Start Menu, then maybe a utility should be created, but again this hasn't happened either.

 

Other issues I ran into is trying to change the layout at a later date, rather than at the point of deployment. Again it was well documented (especially on earlier builds) that this also was problematic.

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[ATTACH=CONFIG]40126[/ATTACH]

 

:)

 

with All Programs just a redirect to the desktop folder !!

 

Does anyone know the policy to remove the users name/link as shown above this would be removing the "Mali Symons" link?

 

Cheers

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Does anyone know the policy to remove the users name/link as shown above this would be removing the "Mali Symons" link?

 

Cheers

 

Sorted it...

 

Just a question of editing the text in the policy for the "Classic Start Menu":

 

Menu items for the Windows 7 Style!

 

Item1.Command=user_files

Item1.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item2.Command=user_documents

Item2.Settings=NOEXPAND

Item3.Command=user_pictures

Item3.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item4.Command=user_music

Item4.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item5.Command=user_videos

Item5.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item6.Command=downloads

Item6.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item7.Command=homegroup

Item7.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item8.Command=separator

Item9.Command=games

Item9.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item10.Command=favorites

Item10.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item11.Command=recent_documents

Item11.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item12.Command=computer

Item12.Settings=NOEXPAND

Item13.Command=network

Item13.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item14.Command=network_connections

Item14.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item15.Command=separator

Item16.Command=control_panel

Item16.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item17.Command=pc_settings

Item17.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item18.Command=admin

Item18.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item19.Command=devices

Item19.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item20.Command=defaults

Item20.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item21.Command=help

Item21.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item22.Command=run

Item22.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item23.Command=apps

Item23.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item24.Command=windows_security

 

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How did you get stuff on your start menu? Since Windows 7 days i had a blank left side of the start menu :(

 

I'm using the Class Start Menu - if that helps!

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Sorted it...

 

Just a question of editing the text in the policy for the "Classic Start Menu":

 

Menu items for the Windows 7 Style!

 

Item1.Command=user_files

Item1.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item2.Command=user_documents

Item2.Settings=NOEXPAND

Item3.Command=user_pictures

Item3.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item4.Command=user_music

Item4.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item5.Command=user_videos

Item5.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item6.Command=downloads

Item6.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item7.Command=homegroup

Item7.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item8.Command=separator

Item9.Command=games

Item9.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item10.Command=favorites

Item10.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item11.Command=recent_documents

Item11.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item12.Command=computer

Item12.Settings=NOEXPAND

Item13.Command=network

Item13.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item14.Command=network_connections

Item14.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item15.Command=separator

Item16.Command=control_panel

Item16.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item17.Command=pc_settings

Item17.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item18.Command=admin

Item18.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item19.Command=devices

Item19.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item20.Command=defaults

Item20.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item21.Command=help

Item21.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item22.Command=run

Item22.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item23.Command=apps

Item23.Settings=ITEM_DISABLED

Item24.Command=windows_security

 

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I'm using the Class Start Menu - if that helps!

 

Ah. I'm using Windows 7 Style. I did try 2 Columns and i couldnt get "log off" to display. Just had shutdown menu with all optthere.

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Does anyone know the policy to remove the users name/link as shown above this would be removing the "Mali Symons" link?

 

Cheers

 

Within Classic Shell Settings, navigate to the 'Customize Start Menu' tab. To the right of 'User Files' select 'Don't display this item' from the drop down menu.

 

This then forms part of the regedit you can import using GPP -

 

HKCU > SOFTWARE > IvoSoft > ClassicStartMenu > Settings - MenuItems7. Copy/paste the contents of this into your GPP policy.

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