Joanne Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 Hi everyone, my survey on the house that we are buying isn't until tomorrow, but that doesn't stop me thinking of the possibilities! I have a few questions and I'm just thinking out loud really. Current Layout: What we want to do is extend across the back (single storey) with roof windows and double doors accessing the garden, and make a massive kitchen diner, kinda like this: (apologies for the crude drawing) So we figure we will need 1 or 2 RSJ's (or I call them RJ45's ) Has anyone ever taken out external walls of their house before? I'm assuming Building Control need to assess the work when it's undertaken? I haven't looked at planning laws for a few years, but I don't think we will need planning permission because the extension will be less than 3m. Unless you need it for removing external walls? Also I'm not sure how I feel about the utility being there... might be better closer to the understairs - which we plan on making into a small toilet. Thoughts anyone? Thanks!
Joanne Posted October 10, 2016 Author Posted October 10, 2016 Actually just messed around and this layout is much better...
Michael Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 You'd probably get away without Planning Permission, but it looks a relatively simple extension compared to some. As for knocking out load bearing walls, you definitely need to hire the expertise of a builder, plus you'd need a structural engineer to calculate the specification(s) required for your supports. I'd also consider a downstairs WC as it's always advantageous
Smee Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 Do you want the door to your utility room in the hall? If you've got your washing machine in there you would then have to walk round to the kitchen/diner to the back door to hang it out. just a thought
3s-gtech Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 It may come under permitted development, check the floor plan area. There are several caveats for permitted development, one being any existing extensions. It will need to have building inspection certainly - your builder should arrange this unless you project manage it. Your plans may or may not be possible, a survey of the plans will determine it (e.g. weight of wall to be supported, services beneath, depth to foundation level, building regs). Worth spending a bit of money getting this all done for you, as it's hard work!
Joanne Posted October 10, 2016 Author Posted October 10, 2016 I'd also consider a downstairs WC as it's always advantageous Yep, we are planning for that. There is a small window in the understairs cupboard, so would be perfect! Do you want the door to your utility room in the hall? If you've got your washing machine in there you would then have to walk round to the kitchen/diner to the back door to hang it out. just a thought Husband has mentioned this. I think it will all depend on how we layout the kitchen... so many options with a room that size. Enjoy my rubbish drawings!
Joanne Posted October 10, 2016 Author Posted October 10, 2016 It may come under permitted development, check the floor plan area. There are several caveats for permitted development, one being any existing extensions. It will need to have building inspection certainly - your builder should arrange this unless you project manage it. Your plans may or may not be possible, a survey of the plans will determine it (e.g. weight of wall to be supported, services beneath, depth to foundation level, building regs). Worth spending a bit of money getting this all done for you, as it's hard work! Yeah it's gonna be one of the first things we do, getting someone in to see if it is possible. We know an architect who I'm sure will be able to help us a lot!
difinity Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 I took half of the wooden load bearing wall out in my house a couple of years ago when I made downstairs open plan. I rang the council and spoke to a planning officer about my plans, who informed me I needed a structural engineer's report. An engineer came out and took measurements, his report took a few days and then I sent a copy to the council. I had to dig out a hole in the middle of my house as the concrete slab wasn't quite thick enough. Once the hole was dug the council inspected it and the council came out again after the brick supporting wall had been built the steel in but no covering up done. I was given verbal confirmation to continue and I got the paper work from the council a few days later. 1
Andrew_C Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 Planning "Permitted Development" doesn't mean you won't need "Building Control"; they are two distinct issues. 1
Joanne Posted October 10, 2016 Author Posted October 10, 2016 Planning "Permitted Development" doesn't mean you won't need "Building Control"; they are two distinct issues. Yeah I'm expecting structural engineers reports and inspections to be taken place throughout. I'll be needing all of the certification when we sell it on.
MichelleC Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 We have just got planning permission to extend our house (we have to get permission as at it's largest we are going out by more than 4m)to get an layout similar to what you are planning. We're going out the side of the house to get more width, I've attached our plans so you can see what I mean. I think from what we've been told, you'll need building regs and a structural engineers report. The house two doors down from us is also extending to the same footprint as we've planned, but they have removed the wall dividing the rear living room from the corridor/kitchen and will just access their utility directly from their living room. I've badly cut and pasted over our plans to show you their layout. We shared an architect, and according to him, they had to spend £5,000 on a steel girder to remove the wall. 1
pete Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 How are you planning to get into the back garden? Does your kitchen/diner have patio/french doors? I suspect whoever eyeballs your plans will take a dim view of you removing a potential fire exit (the door from the kitchen to the garden) unless you provide an alternate route.
Joanne Posted October 10, 2016 Author Posted October 10, 2016 How are you planning to get into the back garden? Does your kitchen/diner have patio/french doors? I suspect whoever eyeballs your plans will take a dim view of you removing a potential fire exit (the door from the kitchen to the garden) unless you provide an alternate route. Read the original post carefully...
pete Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 Read the original post carefully... Fair enough. In my defense, your plan shows a big window there, not a double door
Joanne Posted October 10, 2016 Author Posted October 10, 2016 Fair enough. In my defense, your plan shows a big window there, not a double door In my defense I was using publisher to alter the plans! LOLZ! (Mr Pete (not you - my husband) was using paint, so they were even worse!!!)
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