denmyos Posted June 27, 2016 Posted June 27, 2016 Hi I need a small program that can do text popup on every reboot on multiple computers across a network. The library I'm working for, needs a popup text window that can show the user the rules for using the computer on library...No porn etc. It has to run on every reboot, and across 4 networks and on about 100 computers. For now I have Deep freeze set to run a text every other hour, but in the long run thats not sufficient. Any idears thx
sted Posted June 27, 2016 Posted June 27, 2016 even easier theres a gpo for that. computer configuration\security settings\security options\interactive logon:message title/text for users attempting to log on 2
Oaktech Posted June 27, 2016 Posted June 27, 2016 Would the showing and clicking of an AUP not do the job? https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/310430 Something like this. I also think that BGInfo gives you the ability to set an AUP. 1
denmyos Posted June 27, 2016 Author Posted June 27, 2016 (edited) My fault, my fault sorry sorry,,, I left a vital detail out.. I'm in a workgroup, and it has to work in a workgroup. The computers are not on a server of any kind. Edited June 27, 2016 by denmyos
sted Posted June 27, 2016 Posted June 27, 2016 My fault, my fault sorry sorry,,, I left a vital detail out.. I'm in a workgroup, and it has to work in a workgroup. the settings can be set in local gpo before you deep freeze them
denmyos Posted June 27, 2016 Author Posted June 27, 2016 the settings can be set in local gpo before you deep freeze them Thanks But nothing seems to come up when the user logs in. btw: netplwiz is running, so the user will have auto logon without the need for credentials.
Cazale Posted June 27, 2016 Posted June 27, 2016 Sorry, but I have to ask; why would you run a 100 computer network and not have them in a domain? (the mind boggles!)
denmyos Posted June 27, 2016 Author Posted June 27, 2016 Sorry, but I have to ask; why would you run a 100 computer network and not have them in a domain? (the mind boggles!) its not my decision, everytime I mentions it to the Level3 tech guys they cross them self, ..."and say that has already been debated,, no need to go there again..." I guess it was before my time, cause i don't remember that debate.
Cazale Posted June 27, 2016 Posted June 27, 2016 its not my decision, everytime I mentions it to the Level3 tech guys they cross them self, ..."and say that has already been debated,, no need to go there again..." I guess it was before my time, cause i don't remember that debate. I think most people might suggest to them that there isn't even a debate to be had (unless there's a very unusual set of circumstances preventing it).
DJ-1701 Posted June 27, 2016 Posted June 27, 2016 (edited) Sorry, but I have to ask; why would you run a 100 computer network and not have them in a domain? (the mind boggles!) @Cazale Having machines on a domain and deep-freezing can be a royal pain and lead to toomstoning of accounts. There are ways to omit this, but there can be further issues. When I last tried myself (all be it a decade ago now) it was a pain, especially when trying to apply some domain gpos. Thanks But nothing seems to come up when the user logs in. btw: netplwiz is running, so the user will have auto logon without the need for credentials. You could just make script which prompts up a message box using AutoIt. Message Box code - https://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3/docs/functions/MsgBox.htm AutoIt tools - https://www.autoitscript.com/site/autoit/ The AutoIt tools also have a program that converts your script into an Exe. Edited June 27, 2016 by DJ-1701
denmyos Posted June 27, 2016 Author Posted June 27, 2016 Ah works now. You have to set the message title as well. 1
DJ-1701 Posted June 27, 2016 Posted June 27, 2016 Ah works now. You have to set the message title as well. Glad you got the policy working.
angrycomputingteacher Posted June 27, 2016 Posted June 27, 2016 Could you not get a batch file that echos out a message and set that at startup?
denmyos Posted June 27, 2016 Author Posted June 27, 2016 yes, Deep freeze can hit the computers with a batch file. Batch file are not my strong side, so i have to cook something together searching google etc.
angrycomputingteacher Posted June 27, 2016 Posted June 27, 2016 You could try this in a batch file: @echo OFF ECHO Use Policy ECHO Text
dapaulio Posted June 27, 2016 Posted June 27, 2016 You could try this in a batch file: @echo OFF ECHO Use Policy ECHO Text Pause You may want to add a pause in otherwise your not going to be able to read it.
dapaulio Posted June 27, 2016 Posted June 27, 2016 Why not design the aup into the desktop background. 1
angrycomputingteacher Posted June 28, 2016 Posted June 28, 2016 Sorry, what do you maen? I'm sorta new to BATCH.
elsiegee40 Posted June 28, 2016 Posted June 28, 2016 even easier theres a gpo for that. computer configuration\security settings\security options\interactive logon:message title/text for users attempting to log on That's how I'd do it. In my school we used it for a "Data Protection is your responsibility " message. (It was longer than that, but I can't remember it all)
denmyos Posted June 28, 2016 Author Posted June 28, 2016 We have started looking at several option. Right now we are looking at the Task scheduler. The good thing about the task scheluder is the it can be trigget by idle mode. That means that if the old user doesn't logoff and just leaves the computer, it will go into idle mode and trigge the rules popup, so the next user can see the rules. If we have the rules on the wallpaper alone, the user that only uses a browser will never see the rules. Yet again, if a user never lets the computer go into idle mode, that user will never see the rules. The problem we are having now is that we can't get the task scheduler to trigger in idle mode. We have set the idle mode to 1 min. but nothing happens.? The trigger is set to "start only if task is idle for 5 minutes" and "wait for idle 1 minutes" But nothing happens.? I can trigger the task by setting it to run on a specific time,, and that works.. but idle mode doesn't seem to work.?
dapaulio Posted June 28, 2016 Posted June 28, 2016 A couple things 1) Idle mode is going to give you varied results as the computer is very rarely idle especially for 6 minutes. it is likely that it is executing other "idle" tasks which may or maynot appear in task scheduler 2) what are you asking the task schedule to execute on idle? Script? executable? My opinion is task scheduler is not the best solution for your needs especially an idle task. AUP is a statement to the end user that such activity is not tolerated. This sort of thing needs to be prominent where the user can not avoid looking at it either by an interactive logon text or my suggestion is designed on to the desktop background. you don't want to give the user the excuse they haven't seen the AUP the first would have been the best solution as it requires the user to ok through the prompt to continue logon however you are not in a domain and as I'm sure I have read you use shared users. (single user account for all) therefore the latter is would be ideal prominent for the setup you have. Granted deploying a desktop background on to a load of computers would be time consuming but as your not in a domain any solution would be just as time consuming.
denmyos Posted June 29, 2016 Author Posted June 29, 2016 A couple things 1) Idle mode is going to give you varied results as the computer is very rarely idle especially for 6 minutes. it is likely that it is executing other "idle" tasks which may or maynot appear in task scheduler 2) what are you asking the task schedule to execute on idle? Script? executable?[/Quote] A text window My opinion is task scheduler is not the best solution for your needs especially an idle task. AUP is a statement to the end user that such activity is not tolerated. This sort of thing needs to be prominent where the user can not avoid looking at it either by an interactive logon text or my suggestion is designed on to the desktop background. you don't want to give the user the excuse they haven't seen the AUP the first would have been the best solution as it requires the user to ok through the prompt to continue logon however you are not in a domain and as I'm sure I have read you use shared users. (single user account for all) therefore the latter is would be ideal prominent for the setup you have. Granted deploying a desktop background on to a load of computers would be time consuming but as your not in a domain any solution would be just as time consuming. I agree with you, but there are a couple of reason why we need several ways to show the user the AUP. 1. The computers are public anybody can use them, no need to logon. 2. If a user leaves the computer with out a reboot, then the new user will not get a logon text. 3. 90% of the users only uses the internet and never see the background, so they will never see the AUP either. So if a user leaves the computer without reboot, we are hoping the computers goes into idle and shows the AUP, so the next user sees it without logon and without seeing the background. Of cause there is a lot of hoping and but's here.....
Cazale Posted June 29, 2016 Posted June 29, 2016 (edited) "90% of the users only uses the internet and never see the background, so they will never see the AUP either" If most of the AUP covers online behaviour, could you maybe save the AUP as HTML and set it as a global homepage? Or maybe open in a second tab? Edited June 29, 2016 by Cazale
denmyos Posted June 29, 2016 Author Posted June 29, 2016 "90% of the users only uses the internet and never see the background, so they will never see the AUP either" If most of the AUP covers online behaviour, could you maybe save the AUP as HTML and set it as a global homepage? Or maybe open in a second tab? That could also be an idea. thanks
angrycomputingteacher Posted June 29, 2016 Posted June 29, 2016 You could have a message that pops up when they login. I could leave a link to some software that could help.
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