More BSF Delays

[Grommit]

Forget the idea of it being ICT suites ... there is a good body of evidence that show team teaching in this manner significantly moves on learning. It has been done by those innovative schools that are now going to lose out as they are having prescribed to them their facilities and have support staff with key skills stripped out.

 

We had this... 3 ICT suites open Plan..... My God was it Chaos....

1 disruptive loud child kills 3 classes.... one loud teacher teaching kills the other 2 classes...

 

we had to build partitions after BSF had left and the 3 ICT suites work perfect now :-)

[GrumbleDook]

I'll hunt through my mail archives but off the top of my head the key groups of research that stick out are Calgary, Maine, Illinois, Warwick (who worked with Leading Edge schools as well as the ICT Test Bed) and the English Language School at B'ham Uni. Other reports, such as the ICT Test Bed reports frequently mention team teaching being enhance by ICT and team teaching enhancing ICT.

[broc]

Not sure how related the PFI and BSF plans are related but if private sector are involved I can't see them being too far off & the same problems occuring

 

Most if not all full school rebuilds will be PFI, apart from some early pathfinder schools that pre-date the BSF funding being agreed.

 

Refurbishment is generally not PFI, but no doubt there are exceptions too.

[gaz350]

BB98 is a terrible burden upon free thinking & vision in schools. If you want staffrooms, management offices, individual subject resource areas or dare I say somewhere for an ICT technician to hide out you can only have these at the expense of smaller classrooms etc. Even storage and corridor space can affect classroom size. If you get rid of corridors and make the kids circulate around the outside of the building you might be able to have an extra office or two

 

in our design the ground floor is 5m high floor to ceiling.... yet we cant put any mezzanine levels in the admin area else we go over the m2 allowed. Oh and the architects have the heads office the other side of a wall that has a music practice room the other side....... WTF are they thinking when designing these buildings i do not know....

[GrumbleDook]

Also remember that some of the lessons that are being learnt are from Academies, and sometimes the new Heads / Principles are not involved at the planning stage ... they have had to pick up a school part way through the process and had to deal with the aftermath (David Young Academy is one that springs to mind!)

[russdev]

Saying that we do team teaching here and have ict suites as we have got two ict suites next to each other and door between them.

 

Russ

Edited February 6, 2008 by russdev

[broc]

I think there is a place for team teaching & I have seen it work well. My concern would be if it were to be regarded as the 'norm' with whole schools designed around the concept.

 

The same concern applies to the idea that ICT must be used in every lesson by every student. There are some people in high places who seem to think that promoting 1:1 access to ICT in every lesson is some sort of 'quick fix' to improving standards. I am sure it might work for some students, but not necessarily all.

[GrumbleDook]

In all the schools I have been to where team teaching has taken place there is always the ability to pull across a dividing wall.

 

Best of both worlds.

[webman]

In all the schools I have been to where team teaching has taken place there is always the ability to pull across a dividing wall.

 

Is that one of the 25 tasks that teachers dropped though? Who will be there to move said walls? Or is this another scenario where a call to Deli is required?

[SpuffMonkey]

More stuff

 

http://education.guardian.co.uk/schools/story/0,,2252941,00.html

[Grommit]

There is a term called " Effective Construction Management" this is what the BSF builds are run on..

 

The Builders and Architects start the building process not knowing what the final budget is going to be and work to the restraints as they evolve.. So you might get adapted rooms..

[GrumbleDook]

Apparently in parts of Oz (brother used to work for Melbourne Local Govt) they used to have that problem ... now they work out what the minimum amount of money they will have to fund a build ... and anything extra goes on the add-on stuff to give it a better look and feel. Apparently this model was also used in Sydney when building facilities for the Olympics to great success.