Computers to Pupils ratio

[FN-GM]

700 pupils 500 computers.

[torledo]

We are currently at 2.5:1

 

But unfortunately we will be in the control of BSF in 2 years time and they will provide us with a ratio of 5:1

 

This will be done at a cost of 1.5 million pounds (5 year contract)

 

We could provide the new school with the original ratio of 2.5:1 for 900,000 pounds over the same period.

 

Shame I was not allowed to tender for the contract!!!

 

 

 

Mike

 

As it turned out to cost 300,000 a year to manage you're school, i think you SHOULD have been allowed to tender for the school IT contract. Think of the projects you could have accomplished with just 2/3 of that 300k figure as ICT spend every year, while still covering you're own salary and that of another technician or two - and as you've said you'd be able to maintain current computer ratio and provide for a VLE all at significantly less cost than the winning bidder.

 

Just a shame BSF lacks any kind of level-headed flexibility.

Edited January 30, 2008 by torledo

[Andie]

We were told last month on a training course (LEA) that anything over 5 years old doesn't count for the ratio. That wipes out 27 elderly-but-working-fine networked desktops in classrooms. So we are back up to about 7 pupils to 1 computer.

[acrobson]

Under BSF, we have to be 2:1 at least, however the school has also sold a load of laptops to pupils unsr some goverment scheme/grant, so this gets there target up to the ideal 1:1.

[steveg]

At the main primary school I work at we are about 1:2.5 (doesn't include staff computers)

 

An infant school we support has a ratio of 1 : 2.9 although this will drop after a new suite and laptops go in soon, to about 1 : 1.8 (perhaps a little over the top, as the oldest kids are only 7)

 

Another primary we support has a ratio of 1 : 2.5 which will again drop to about 1:2 after new laptops are in use.

 

One of the new primary schools we took on this April has a ratio of around 1:8, and will take some persuading to get anything new.

 

Steve

[enjay]

We were told last month on a training course (LEA) that anything over 5 years old doesn't count for the ratio. That wipes out 27 elderly-but-working-fine networked desktops in classrooms. So we are back up to about 7 pupils to 1 computer.

 

Formerly, yes, but not any more. The direction now is that a computer can be counted if it is appropriate to the task for which it is used. The full extent of this is that you could have a Spectrum in your count if you can argue that the software you're using can't be found for a PC, but more realistically it means that a 6-year-old computer in a very low-use or low-demand area is fine, but not in your main IT Suite.

[witch]

4.7:1 here but that includes 32 wireless laptops which hardly ever work!

If you take them out it is much worse

[Andie]

Formerly, yes, but not any more. The direction now is that a computer can be counted if it is appropriate to the task for which it is used. The full extent of this is that you could have a Spectrum in your count if you can argue that the software you're using can't be found for a PC, but more realistically it means that a 6-year-old computer in a very low-use or low-demand area is fine, but not in your main IT Suite.

 

This would put us in a much better situation. I have just gone back up this thread and looked at the link to ratio info, which seems to agree with what you are saying. But the link is to a local gov site, which doesn't quote an official source. Have done a quick Google search, and a search on the dfes/dcfs site, but can't find the official statement of the recommended ratio and how to measure it. Can anyone paste in a link to THE official info on this ratio? We are looking at ICT spending over the next month, and thought we had to replace computers over 5 years old regardless of their ability to do what we need them to do, especially as the LEA had told us this on a training course. If I can get an official statement to wave at the powers that be, we may have more time to consider things!

[enjay]

Like you, I tried to find definitive statements either confirming or denying the 5 year rule. After much fruitless searching, we took the decision that if such a requirement still existed, we would have found it! We therefore went with the "if it meets the needs, it is okay by us" line from (I think) BECTA's web site.

 

I should point out that we're an independent school, so don't have to adhere to these rules (although they are of course good advice nonetheless). If my proverbial butt depended on getting the right interpretation, I have may have searched for longer, but in our position I could happily justify our stance to SLT/Governors/parents if asked.

[timbo343]

I think we are getting close to 2:1

 

Tim

[button_ripple]

we have just enough to give every class a computer, let alone 1 per pupil.

[TForsdyke-SHS]

I know this is an old thread but this is non the less interesting, we have roughly 2 students for every PC, however that includes admin and teacher PCs so it is probabally closer to 3:1 student accessable PCs, however about 1/2 of the PCs are 5 years or older, so if those do not count we are down to about 6:1