GrumbleDook Posted September 15, 2008 Posted September 15, 2008 Tower Hamlets - RM 24.5mil I think you'll find that it is Ramesys. Tower Hamlets Council building a brighter future for local students
steve Posted September 16, 2008 Author Posted September 16, 2008 I think you'll find that it is Ramesys. Tower Hamlets Council building a brighter future for local students Yep you're right, I put Ramesys on the wiki but got it wrong on here. Its been one of those weeks / months / terms / years
steve Posted November 12, 2008 Author Posted November 12, 2008 Southwark (London) RM £15mil Link wiki updated
asynchro Posted November 14, 2008 Posted November 14, 2008 The ink is dry on the Kent deal from 31st October. The LEP is Land Securities, BSFI (of course) and the ICT Partner on the LEP is Northgate Information Systems.
Gatt Posted November 14, 2008 Posted November 14, 2008 19th December is the current date for Salford to decide who gets chosen ... Bidders - Salford City Council
sahmeepee Posted November 28, 2008 Posted November 28, 2008 (edited) Some shortlists announced recently: Blackburn with Darwen and Bolton Council (Bolton is aiming for wave 7; value c. £130m for Blackburn, £400m in total): Balfour Beatty Education (formerly Transform Schools) Balfour Beatty Construction and Balfour Kilpatrick - construction Haden Building Management - facilities management RM Education - ICT cruft BDB Learning Partnership details sketchy on this ("a Laing O'Rourke and John Laing consortium") Catalyst Education Bovis Lend Lease - construction Vita Lend Lease - facilities management Redstone - ICT with the final decision set to be made on 16th September 2009. Full timeline available at the end of this BSF PDF. (source BUILDING SCHOOLS FOR THE FUTURE: REVISED EXPRESSIONS OF INTEREST AND PROCUREMENT OF THE LEP, sorry FOSSils: it's a Word doc!) Rochdale (a wave 4 authority; value c. £200m) AURA Learning Communities Sir Robert McAlpine (Construction) Robertsons FM (Facilities Management) Telindus/Core (ICT) Galliford Try/Equitix Galliford Try (Construction) Galliford Try FM (Facilities Management) RM (ICT) Inspired Spaces Carillion (Construction, FM and ICT) with support from Ramsey’s [sic ] (ICT Partner) (source: Building schools for the future shortlist announced) based on an earlier document that means the only consortium weeded out by Rochdale was: EMEYE Willmott Dixon and GB Building Solutions – Construction MITIE Group – Facilities Management Capito – ICT Capito is a real ICT Services company, not a typo for our favourite company! Edited November 28, 2008 by sahmeepee
Richie Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 Derbyshire contract has been awarded to Equitix - IT partner is Dell http://www.derbyshire.gov.uk/news_events/news/2008/december/news_items/bidder.asp
kevin_lane Posted January 9, 2009 Posted January 9, 2009 Derbyshire contract has been awarded to Equitix - IT partner is Dell wont belong now then i guess i work in spondon derby city. i wonder who it will be i hope its not RM. 1 year left i think till we find out. all i know is that if they decied to move us all to a "central location" i know all the work i've done here is going to go down the pan:mad:
scotth Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 Can anyone find out the follwoing as we cant get an answer up here not bothered about specific LEA in the question just the actual question. I have been having a think about the IT side of BSF and have the following questions: How long is the IT contract for? For arguments sake, if RM wins the Stockton bid and as a result all of the IT team are then employed by RM and then after 4 years Stockton re-procures its infrastructure services framework with another infrastructure provider e.g. Ramesys, what would happen to the IT team’s jobs? Would they still be employed by RM? Would their jobs be transferred over to Ramesys? Can Stockton guarantee that in the event of each re-procurement over the next x amount of years that their jobs will be transferred from provider to provider? If for example our infrastructure was again with RM and we used their learning platform, and realised after a months/years of using it that it didn’t meet the school’s vision plan for the future, would we as a school be able to go out and buy and install without any qualms another product that would meet the schools needs? At the meeting yesterday another school’s LA had bought into RM’s platform on the provider that it does all the online reporting etc through SIMs. But unfortunately the school realised that the product didn’t do what it said on the tin, and they then invested in SIMS Learning Gateway (SLG). SLG was embedded into SharePoint for teachers to use.
steve Posted January 24, 2009 Author Posted January 24, 2009 Liverpool's BSF is under LDL stewardship - who? I hear you cry. Liverpool Direct Limited closely allied to Liverpool City Council - GOD help us all !!!!!!!!! It's been announced that Liverpool (LDL) have signed with BT to provide the ICT services for their BSF programme. BT is the current supplier for an existing IT project in Liverpool schools. Link Contract value - £11 million Wiki updated.
steve Posted February 2, 2009 Author Posted February 2, 2009 Birmingham has been awarded to REDSTONE I've added this to the wiki and created a summary table of no. contracts awarded.
TerryTibbs Posted February 11, 2009 Posted February 11, 2009 Can anyone say whether Morse have withdrawn from BSF? - Andy Davies (who was apparently BSF Technical Director at Morse) seems to indicate that they have... see Andy Davies BSF Wiki / The Scoreboard
MMA Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 Luton Civica - Val Unknown Link Luton is Civica with VT Education & Skills
ukdavies Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 Unfortunately Morse have all but withdrawn from the BSF market. They retain the STaG contract but won't be pursuing any other opportunity and have withdrawn from Durham. Personally I think this is a huge mistake, but thankfully other integrators like Agilisys and Logica have entered the market. See there annoucement to the City here... Morse - Investor Relations - City Announcements - Interim results for the six months ended 31 December 2008 Brief Summary says... ------------------------------------------------ Morse in Education performed below expectations resulting in a review of the business * South Tyneside and Gateshead (STaG) ‘Building Schools for the Future’ (BSF) project will now be managed as a stand alone project reporting into the Managing Director of the Division * Sales and management team of the division have been made redundant, additional restructuring charge of £0.1 million in the second half of the financial year ------------------------------------- Regards, Andy Davies.
GrumbleDook Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 I believe that Durham will be picked up by CITS now (Carillion IT Services), but not had confirmation yet.
ukdavies Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 I believe that Durham will be picked up by CITS now (Carillion IT Services), but not had confirmation yet. Yeap I think that will be the way forward on this one, if it doesn't go in-house.
Sylv3r Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 They retain the STaG contract but won't be pursuing any other opportunity and have withdrawn from Durham. I thought Morse pulled out a long time ago from Durham. It was certainly rumoured a long time ago anyway.
torledo Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 (edited) It's been announced that Liverpool (LDL) have signed with BT to provide the ICT services for their BSF programme. BT is the current supplier for an existing IT project in Liverpool schools. Link Contract value - £11 million Wiki updated. that's really interesting.... according to the article the award of the ICT part of the BSF contract is just an extension of an existing joint partnership between liverpool council and BT (LDL as another poster has pointed out). These joint partnerships have become increasingly common in providing council IT services, the fact this has been extended to schools IT provision as part of BSF seems like a logical step for any authority which already has one of thes joint partnerships in place. But it also appears to be unique to Liverpool for the moment. Unless there are other examples. This begs the question, why haven't other authorities with similar deals not gone down the same route ? why do they have one provider for council IT and another for schools under BSF ? Tim warren of liverpool appears to answer this question... We would not expect many other large deals similar to this one in other authorities in the near future because local education partnerships tend to look for suppliers that will meet the specific needs of schools and do not often look at the bigger picture by trying to find suppliers able to fulfil the combined need of various institutions within the local authority that seems reasonable conclusion, but such a decision by other authorities with existing joint IT partnerships with a private sector supplier to instead provide contracts to education IT specialists smacks of a somewhat disjointed approach to IT service provision.....in many areas the ICT needs of a school are not dissimilar to the needs of a council function. Ofcourse schools have particular ICT needs and a specialist provider has the experience of that. Edited February 20, 2009 by torledo got my waves mixed up ;0)
ukdavies Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 In addition to Liverpool extending their joint partnership it seems that Telford & Wrekin will follow the same path with Serco. However Partnerships for Schools, who obviously control the flow of funds, are anti this approach, as they believe that the ICT need to be procured in conjunction with the building programme in order to achieve tight integration and a combined approach to Education Transformation through the LEP. Andy Davies
Face-Man Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 phase two Lambeth has gone RM SmallCapNews | RM awarded £6.6m BSF contract extension by Lambeth Council
gazzzar Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 Hmm.... Salford are keeping things behind closed doors.. cant find any information about the ICT side of it.. You got that right!!!:eyebrows:
Pearcey Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 One thing I don't understand with all of the BSF Programme on the ICT side is how companies like Northgate, Ramesys, RM etc are going to manage the ICT / Networks side when the programme gets into full swing. Looking at their websites they only employ a small to medium number of network engineers (40-50 on average). Surely this won't cover a programme of this scale across the UK (??)
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