Zoom7000 Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 Is it just me, or has anyone noticed really bad performance with RM CC4 and Intel Core i3 devices. Most of my current devices have Intel Core i3 CPUs (Both PCs and Laptops) and Windows 7 just grinds to a halt when you try to do anything. It takes forever to login, to launch programs and generally most tasks. I just installed a new ICT Suite of 31 Dell AIOs with Core i5 (Quad Core) and they simply fly by comparison. Has anyone else noticed any similar issues with really poor performance?
NB9457 Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 (edited) Is it just me, or has anyone noticed really bad performance with RM CC4 and Intel Core i3 devices. Most of my current devices have Intel Core i3 CPUs (Both PCs and Laptops) and Windows 7 just grinds to a halt when you try to do anything. It takes forever to login, to launch programs and generally most tasks. I just installed a new ICT Suite of 31 Dell AIOs with Core i5 (Quad Core) and they simply fly by comparison. Has anyone else noticed any similar issues with really poor performance? Running CC4 on 2 year old i5 machines we used to get 7 minute logon time. 7 MINUTES! Believe me, I was on the teachers side for once. I must have spent a good few weeks making an image on a per machine basis instead of adding drivers to a library and letting it do it this way. That and I made sure all drivers were correct and tested vigorously, but then, still a logon time of 2 minutes. Then we experimented with SSDs, with CC4 these make a hell of difference, mostly to the fact of how much crap it has to load at boot, got logon times well below a minute, even on older Core2 machines. I'd seriously recommend making a new image first and then SSDs. Edited October 8, 2015 by NB9457
HarryMonkey Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 we have some CC4 machines that are up to 10 years old and rarely get anything over 5 mins from power on to useable desktop.
synaesthesia Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 CC4 is enough to drive anyone mad, performance wise. Even with SSD's, one of my school's had machines slower to logon than the worse mechanical drive computers here. Migrated to vanilla this summer and I have had no end of thanks from staff who are logged on and ready to go in 1:30 max on HDD machines and half that on SSD.
foofighterjim Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 CC4 is enough to drive anyone mad, performance wise. Even with SSD's, one of my school's had machines slower to logon than the worse mechanical drive computers here. Migrated to vanilla this summer and I have had no end of thanks from staff who are logged on and ready to go in 1:30 max on HDD machines and half that on SSD. Some people are quick to assume CC4 is the issue with things like this, sometimes it can be a case of GPO issues. My office workstation is an i3, 4GB RAM, 128GB SSD; boot to login screen is sub 40 seconds. Some our computers with spinners still in them boot to login around your 1:30 benchmark too and their nothing special spec wise (Dual core Celeron with 2GB RAM).
synaesthesia Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 And often these networks have had nothing changed in the GPO; everything just as it came from CC4. I had a completely virtualised test setup based on it with stupidly fast spinning storage and that wasn't much better RM's overheads are diabolical.
NB9457 Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 I must agree, going Vanilla fixes so many things. All depends though if you like CC4 and it works for you buy SSDs is what I'd say
foofighterjim Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 All I can do is speak from my experience. Yes, CC4 puts an overhead on many aspects. Have I ever seen it dramatically impact hardware to the extent describe here; no. There are always variations between networks and CC4 adds complexity to how it all works but if CC4 is so fundamentally wrong regarding speed I must just be the exception to the rule as my modest hardware seems to be holding up just fine.
NB9457 Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 All I can do is speak from my experience. Yes, CC4 puts an overhead on many aspects. Have I ever seen it dramatically impact hardware to the extent describe here; no. There are always variations between networks and CC4 adds complexity to how it all works but if CC4 is so fundamentally wrong regarding speed I must just be the exception to the rule as my modest hardware seems to be holding up just fine. Think a big part of it falls down to initial set up. Our school was part of the BSF and managed, so RM wouldn't let you touch anything without going through many painful steps and it took a long time for us to get it sorted, which was to turn round to them and just say "we're doing it anyway now and it paid off
andyturpie Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 Never had any issues with CC4 and our mid range i3s, we have always managed log in times around the 1 min mark with SSDs.
synaesthesia Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 Well this is exactly it; the setups for many of the RM schools round here were done in a very particular way, and some things simple in GPO were just awful with CC4 - Printers being the most popular. Biggest improvement to any school with CC4 without removing it, I found, was killing anything printer management based in CC4, removing the auditor database and doing it properly with GPP - quicker logons and printers that actually mapped reliably. RM used to love my calls about that, often being met with "Oh, that's standard - just restart the computer and all will be fine again"
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