Windows 10 - Reservations Live & GA Date

[Arthur]

Hope this helps anyone.

Did you see post #21? It's essentially a shorter version of that Ars Technica article.

 

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Edited June 4, 2015 by Arthur

[fairm010]

Did you see post #21? It's essentially a shorter version of that Ars Technica article.

 

http://vgy.me/qk6yfi.png

 

I did, just thought it may be useful to have something bigger

[Gatt]

Gabe's also said that anyone with Insider Preview installed will also get an upgrade to the RTM!

[GuyJD]

Gabe's also said that anyone with Insider Preview installed will also get an upgrade to the RTM!

So that basically negates the need to have a previous version of windows, so anyone can get on the Insider program and get a free version of Windows without owning a qualifying upgradable version.

 

I like that my home and work PC will just upgrade to the full version but it does seem like a bit of a silly move.

[Gatt]

So that basically negates the need to have a previous version of windows, so anyone can get on the Insider program and get a free version of Windows without owning a qualifying upgradable version.

 

I like that my home and work PC will just upgrade to the full version but it does seem like a bit of a silly move.

 

yeay not sure if theres a limit on this or if they've suspended Insider registrations

[CAM]

Makes sense to me. Get everyone on your platform, make money via selling apps and future upgrades. This is the point where Microsoft will be looking to leverage their power in the Desktop OS market to get everyone into their own ecosystem to create a hefty demand for content creators. Currently the Windows Marketplace lacks apps, so users don't want to use it fuelling the lack of demand for apps.

[Gatt]

This is pretty much how Android and iOS works now so again makes sense for MS to adpot a similar model

[FN-GM]

Typical, releases the day I go on holiday for a month. Playing with it could have used some time up on 2 14 hour flights.

 

Do we know if it will be on the VLSC earlier? It would give me some time to play at work and get some group policies etc setup.

 

Thanks

Edited June 7, 2015 by FN-GM

[Arthur]

So that basically negates the need to have a previous version of windows, so anyone can get on the Insider program and get a free version of Windows without owning a qualifying upgradable version.

Nope.

 

http://vgy.me/zAeGfq.png

 

Source: https://twitter.com/GabeAul/status/597773851150446592

 

yeay not sure if there's a limit on this or if they've suspended Insider registrations

The Windows Insider program will apparently continue to run after RTM too, so I'm guessing not.

Edited June 7, 2015 by Arthur

[Arthur]

It would give me some time to play at work and get some group policies etc setup.

You're going to need to change some of your WMI filters.

 

Windows 10

SELECT Version,ProductType FROM Win32_OperatingSystem WHERE Version LIKE "10.%" AND ProductType="1"

 

Windows 10 and Windows Server 2016 (non-DCs only)

SELECT Version,ProductType FROM Win32_OperatingSystem WHERE Version LIKE "10.%" AND (ProductType="1" OR ProductType="3")

 

Windows 7, 8.x or Windows 10

SELECT Version,ProductType FROM Win32_OperatingSystem WHERE (Version LIKE "10.%" OR Version >="6.1") AND ProductType="1"

 

Do we know if it will be on the VLSC earlier?

No date has been officially announced for VL customers.

[FN-GM]

Thanks, saved me a little time there!

 

Not really heard anything about server 2016, when do we expect to see it please?

[Arthur]

Not really heard anything about server 2016, when do we expect to see it please?

Early 2016 unfortunately.

 

IIRC, there will also be an update to System Center Configuration Manager 2012 / 2012 R2 to coincide with the release of Server 2016.

[FN-GM]

Brill, I hear Exchange will get an update in 2016, however nothing on the Office 365 roadmap for this yet.

[Ephelyon]

@EduTech, are you permitted to release any further details about Windows 10 Education? I've heard it will incorporate a number of APIs that developers can start using from release, but will there be any other specific features that would distinguish it from e.g. Enterprise upon launch?

[jmak]

Early 2016 unfortunately.

 

IIRC, there will also be an update to System Center Configuration Manager 2012 / 2012 R2 to coincide with the release of Server 2016.

 

Presumably as there is such a big delay between win 10 and server 2016 there won't be any need to move from server 2012r2 to properly manage win 10 clients?

[FN-GM]

there won't be any need to move from server 2012r2 to properly manage win 10 clients?

 

Since ADMX there hasn't been a need to move servers onto the same OS and your clients. You just import the new client ADMX files into the central store. Its been this way since 2008 ish.

[jmak]

Since ADMX there hasn't been a need to move servers onto the same OS and your clients. You just import the new client ADMX files into the central store. Its been this way since 2008 ish.

 

I've never had clients ahead of the server: moved from XP to 7, but was already running 2008r2. My experience was the whole shenanigans over managing ie11 with 2008r2, so I assumed it was their basic business model to make you upgrade everything at the same time

[FN-GM]

I've never had clients ahead of the server: moved from XP to 7, but was already running 2008r2. My experience was the whole shenanigans over managing ie11 with 2008r2, so I assumed it was their basic business model to make you upgrade everything at the same time

 

If you uploaded the ADMX for IE11 to the central store you would have been good. Its one of the better tings MS did in recent years.

[EduTech]

Brill, I hear Exchange will get an update in 2016, however nothing on the Office 365 roadmap for this yet.

 

Exchange Online (Office 365) already contains most of the features that is believed to be coming in Exchange 2016 On-Premise. :-)

 

James.

[Arthur]

Brill, I hear Exchange will get an update in 2016, however nothing on the Office 365 roadmap for this yet.

Exchange Online (Office 365) already contains most of the features that is believed to be coming in Exchange 2016 On-Premise. :-)

There were a couple of good videos from the Ignite conference regarding Exchange 2016 / Office 365.

 

• Behind the Curtain: Running Exchange Online
  

  How does Microsoft run the world's largest Exchange implementation? This session explores what it takes to keep Exchange Online humming smoothly and how running the service helps improve the product.

   
   
  
• Meet Exchange Server 2016
  

  Get a first look at Exchange Server 2016, the on-premises release that we plan to ship in the second half of this year. This session will give you the starting point who want to know what’s coming from on-premises Exchange.

[FN-GM]

Thanks, I was expecting a change in the interface, but it appears not!

[sted]

Since ADMX there hasn't been a need to move servers onto the same OS and your clients. You just import the new client ADMX files into the central store. Its been this way since 2008 ish.

 

but say 2012 r1 server cannot be used to edit policies that are specific to windows 8.1 and above (yes you can use rsat on a workstation) but if you want to specify a start screen say there is as far as im aware no way to do that on 2012r1/2008r2 it wont even see the setting the group policy will happily apply to any pcs but the server cant see/edit that setting

[FN-GM]

but say 2012 r1 server cannot be used to edit policies that are specific to windows 8.1 and above (yes you can use rsat on a workstation) but if you want to specify a start screen say there is as far as im aware no way to do that on 2012r1/2008r2 it wont even see the setting the group policy will happily apply to any pcs but the server cant see/edit that setting

 

If you update the central store with the updated ADMX files you can. That what it is designed for. For example I could edit Windows 8.1 group policies from a Server 2008 R2 server if I wanted. When you populate the central store that's where it picks up all the GP settings, not the local machine like it did on Server 2003.

[Arthur]

Do we know if it will be on the VLSC earlier?

There's a possibility the enterprise edition of Windows 10 might be released at a later date. Only Home and Pro will be available on 29/07/15.

 

I wondered whether there will be other Windows 10 features Microsoft won't provide to Enterprise users on the LTSB. Because Windows 10 Enterprise won't be launching until some time this autumn, I'm hearing, Microsoft execs won't talk much about it. (It's Windows 10 Home and Pro editions that will be available starting 29 July to customers who opt into Microsoft's year-long first-year-free upgrade promotion. We don't have an exact launch date for Enterprise so far).

 

Source: www.zdnet.com/article/some-windows-10-enterprise-users-wont-get-microsofts-edge-browser/

[FN-GM]

There's a possibility the enterprise edition of Windows 10 might be released at a later date. Only Home and Pro will be available on 29/07/15.

 

 

 

Source: www.zdnet.com/article/some-windows-10-enterprise-users-wont-get-microsofts-edge-browser/

 

 

That is a surprise especially after they have updated System Center already for Windows 10.