gh256 Posted November 27, 2007 Posted November 27, 2007 Hi, I was wondering if there was something which if a student went on a specific website say http://www.surfpros.com could the pages they go on have a screen dump taken and saved somewhere. We only have the ablility to say that they have been on the proxy as the web address logged is jargen (as its how the proxy works http://www.surfpros.com/load_of_gibberish) but we need to get evidence they have been on myspace through it and the screen dump thing would be ideal. Regards, Glenn
gwendes Posted November 27, 2007 Posted November 27, 2007 You can decrypt the 'load_of_gibberish' by running it through (normally) a BASE64 decoder http://makcoder.sourceforge.net/demo/base64.php Most VNC software will allow you to take screenshots if you like.
gwendes Posted November 27, 2007 Posted November 27, 2007 It's also good for encrypting search terms to search for in a log
gh256 Posted November 27, 2007 Author Posted November 27, 2007 Thanks. I was wondering if there is anything that would do the screen logging automatically?
richard.thomas Posted November 27, 2007 Posted November 27, 2007 Securus does this. It'll take a snapshot of any violation, and you can enter your own 'bad' words for it to pick up on
gwendes Posted November 27, 2007 Posted November 27, 2007 Secrus does this. It'll take a snapshot of any violation, and you can enter your own 'bad' words for it to pick up on LOL! Secr-Us... Shame about the price
richard.thomas Posted November 27, 2007 Posted November 27, 2007 lol beat me before i'd submitted the edited, someones quick today
gwendes Posted November 27, 2007 Posted November 27, 2007 lol beat me before i'd submitted the edited, someones quick today Why thank you! I wasn't sure if it was deliberate! I'd actually love to be able to install a Securus box but they're far too expensive to justify...
enjay Posted November 27, 2007 Posted November 27, 2007 we need to get evidence they have been on myspace through it Does your AUP say anything about not attempting to hack/bypass school security? Of course, the Computer Misuse Act does even if your AUP doesn't, but that's possibly going in a little heavy-handed! I take it the assumption that they're obviously up to no good, otherwise they would do it normally and allow you to log it isn't acceptable? I suppose, they might actually be on sites they are okay to you, they're just civil liberties fans who don't want you to see what they're doing :-)
tom_newton Posted November 27, 2007 Posted November 27, 2007 Why not just block the anonymous proxies rather than watch people use them? Tom
Guest coquet636 Posted November 27, 2007 Posted November 27, 2007 say its part of anti bullying and stops cyber bullying, somehow then they manage to find the money...!!!! After all its anti bullying time....
gh256 Posted November 27, 2007 Author Posted November 27, 2007 We cant block them either thats done by the council and they will only add porn sites for you. NickJones: We know what they are using it for, myspace, facebook (which is banned in the AUP and blocked by the council). Just parents dont take my word and need proof.
Edu-IT Posted November 27, 2007 Posted November 27, 2007 We cant block them either thats done by the council and they will only add porn sites for you. That is daft. How much is the Securus software?
gh256 Posted November 27, 2007 Author Posted November 27, 2007 I dont know, I just know our school will only take the free blocking provided by the council. Is there no free program that could do it? Id do it myself if I could program, shame I cant.
enjay Posted November 27, 2007 Posted November 27, 2007 NickJones: We know what they are using it for, myspace, facebook (which is banned in the AUP and blocked by the council). Just parents dont take my word and need proof. How about looking at their MySpace profiles and seeing the times on their comments? Just to play devil's advocate for a moment, how do you know they are using it for MySpace if you don't currently have any proof which you can give to the parents?
Guest coquet636 Posted November 27, 2007 Posted November 27, 2007 use censornet to block. we use it. its limited but fairly easy to setup and use....
gh256 Posted November 27, 2007 Author Posted November 27, 2007 I know because I have seen it on their screens when I walk in the room and remotly in RM Tutor. But I cant sit doing that all day.
mrforgetful Posted November 27, 2007 Posted November 27, 2007 We have something called Policy Central by a company called Forensic Software, I believe there's a guy from them on here somewhere. Basically it will screenshot whenever someone opens/types any document inluding webpages that have a banned word. It has prebuilt dictionaries but you can add your own or exclude ones too.
gwendes Posted November 27, 2007 Posted November 27, 2007 We cant block them either thats done by the council and they will only add porn sites for you. That is daft. How much is the Securus software? I think we were quoted about £6500 over three years... We're in the same position and trying to sort out a way to stick our own proxy between two LEA managed switches They block porn and 'hacking' sites...
enjay Posted November 27, 2007 Posted November 27, 2007 They block porn and 'hacking' sites... Given that proxy bypass sites allow you access to not one but both of those categories, surely they should block them?
Edu-IT Posted November 27, 2007 Posted November 27, 2007 To lazy lol If I was in your situation I would get in touch with them and see why exactly it is that they're not blocking proxy websites.
gh256 Posted November 27, 2007 Author Posted November 27, 2007 They do some but there are so many of them. Shame its just a URL filter and is not content bassed
richard.thomas Posted November 27, 2007 Posted November 27, 2007 You can get alot of free systems to control what users can access, have a quick search on the forums. I'm currently using IPCop with the URLFilter addon- Does the job, but its only URL filtering. Tom was kind enough to send me an evaluation of their SmoothGuardian- its a beast of an app, but thats also money! Securus is fairly hefty price + annual subscription, but it's good for having a log of violations.
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