[tv trailer] Doctor Who: Kill The Moon: Perhaps Not A Suitable Episode For Arachnophobes?

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Note: Clip includes a computer generated spider [a large one!]

 

[rich_tech]

the writing has been enjoyable the last few episodes I thought, all enjoyable stories as standalones

[Garacesh]

I didn't like this episode so much. The first 20-or-so minutes were amazing, but the end felt like one big cop-out.

Spoilers!

 

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So you're telling me that a creature that only just hatched from the egg and experienced no accelerated growth managed to lay another egg that was the same size as the 'moon' (in other words, an egg bigger than itsels!).. Wut?!

 

Also what was the point of the schoolgirl? Really?

 

Although I did like Clara's rage at The Doctor at the end. That was really well done.

[witch]

I liked last week's but this week's? Not so much.

What happened to the things that the astronauts brought with them? Would they just..disintegrate?

(trying not to spoil things)

 

 

Once more though it was all about the companion instead of being about the doctor.

[featured_spectre]

The whole series so far has been one that is not suitable for children, at all. They've given my nephew nightmares, and he is 9 and loves the older series with David Tennent and Matt Smith.

[witch]

The whole series so far has been one that is not suitable for children, at all. They've given my nephew nightmares, and he is 9 and loves the older series with David Tennent and Matt Smith.

 

Then again - the Daleks used to give many children of my generation nightmares and personally I was terrified of the cybermen.

Modern children are much more blasé when it comes to monsters because of CGI AFAIC and what's wrong with being a bit scared? It never stopped us watching even though we might have been hiding behind the sofa

[sted]

well so far this season we have had 2 passable episodes this one and the bank robbery one the rest have just been im tempted to say bordering on awful

[tmcd35]

I've really enjoyed this season so far. It seems a bit more grown up and consistent, higher quality like some American Sci-Fi shows of the past. I also really, really like Peter Capaldi as the Doctor, by far the best so far of the reboots. He brings a certain serious the show as been lacking. The story writing as also been a lot better than recent series. That said, this weeks story was a bit below par, back to the Mat Smith/David Tennent monster of the week quality.

 

 

As for scares. The only Dr Who episode ever to scare me was a Peter Davidson one where some people get eaten by a Snake. I've seen it since and can't think why that would have scared me even as a kid. Maybe it was the snowy picture on a 22" CRT that compensated for the god awful special effects? Watching it now and the only thing scary is Martin Clunes acting (the episode is worth watching just for that!)

[Garacesh]

What happened to the things that the astronauts brought with them? Would they just..disintegrate?

I recall the blonde lady saying she didn't expect to survive at the end of the episode, so presumably, yes.

 

well so far this season we have had 2 passable episodes this one and the bank robbery one the rest have just been im tempted to say bordering on awful

I really liked the bank episode. I thought it was very well done. But this one seemed to only be good in the first 20 minutes and the final 5-or-so.

Edited October 6, 2014 by Garacesh

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...As for scares. The only Dr Who episode ever to scare me was a Peter Davidson one where some people get eaten by a Snake. I've seen it since and can't think why that would have scared me even as a kid. Maybe it was the snowy picture on a 22" CRT that compensated for the god awful special effects? Watching it now and the only thing scary is Martin Clunes acting (the episode is worth watching just for that!)

 

Peter Davison episode with a snake and Martin Clunes:

 

Story: Snakedance

[Nibiru]

Peter Davison episode with a snake and Martin Clunes:

 

Story: Snakedance

 

The old series being shown on Horror Channel atm are far better than the modern stories. Snakedance was shown recently too

 

 

 

2 episdes a day normally get shown

 

 

http://www.horrorchannel.co.uk/shows.php?genre=Entertainment

Edited October 6, 2014 by Nibiru

[sonofsanta]

See, I'm not rating this current series at all. I think Capaldi is great, actually a bit alien and stand-offish and arrogant, and certainly something different from the Tennant/Smith "hey, kooky!" vibe, but I think the writing has been atrocious. There's been some decent concepts but no care taken with them.

 

This week: where'd all that extra mass come from, then? Cos the thing's growing? Based on what? If I grow, I need to eat food to fuel that, and that's not that efficient a process. Conservation of mass isn't a difficult idea, yet they couldn't even get that right. And the plot! The whole thing revolved around the Doctor being a bumhole. He could've gone in, said "oh yeah, it's an egg, it'll be fine, honest!" but instead he decided - after fifty years of nothing but intervention - that it's not his place to intervene and humanity should decide for itself (well, not humanity; town councils with the power to turn off the street lights for the vote). If a story relies on a character acting in a way not consistent with that character, well, it's not a story.

 

Listen: great concept, great opening, and the bit in the kids house with the thing on the bed was some of the creepiest Dr. Who there's been in ages. But then at the end, it turns out to have all been in the Doctor's head. So, er, what was the thing on the bed? Cos it looked kind of alien, and if it was meant to be another kid winding him up, then no-one saw the door open for said kid to come in, and any other kid would have completely bottled it at the point adults were involved.

 

The One With The Dodgy Robot In The School: alright, fine, you need to deal with this weird robot thing. Do you really need to pick a school as your battleground? With all those innocents around just asking to get in the way? Really?

 

Robin Hood: actually pretty good as these historical-figure-shoehorned-in episodes go, but the end was ridiculous. "Oh noes not enough gold to fuel the engines quick fire the golden arrow at it I'm sure that a bit of gold stuck to the outside is perfectly usable as a fuel source nevermind that they were having to melt everything else down into a mould earlier on." If you want to end like that, design the ship so that the engine is a big glowing orb or something and fire the arrow into that. It's sci-fi! Invent the facts to suit your purposes! I'm also getting tired of the "robots clever enough to fly across space but not realise when their ship will explode" trope, which Who has used a few times (The Girl in the Fireplace had a similar brand of Really-Cool-Looking-But-Idiotic Robots).

 

I don't much like Clara as a companion tbh - Amy&Rory 4EVA - but I'm so frustrated by the writing. If they spent another day or two on each script, spotting the obvious plot holes and actually thinking "hang on, that doesn't make sense" it'd be so much better. Who has always needed a large dose of suspension of disbelief, for the dodgy effects if not the dodgy "timey wimey" explanations, but this isn't good enough.

 

I'm also bored of that bloody Victorian Sontaran. That joke is worn thinner than the CGI budget.

 

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Edited October 6, 2014 by sonofsanta

[Garacesh]

Listen was a really good episode, besides 'the thing under the duvet' issue - It's never explained what it is but it's entirely possible it's just something else that will be explained at a later date. Looks just like an annoying plot hole for now, which I'll admit bugged me, but I especially liked it how The Doctor was obsessed with a dream everybody has, but it turned out to not be a dream at all (but also be nothing scary), so I really liked that one.

[sonofsanta]

Listen was a really good episode, besides 'the thing under the duvet' issue - It's never explained what it is but it's entirely possible it's just something else that will be explained at a later date. Looks just like an annoying plot hole for now, which I'll admit bugged me, but I especially liked it how The Doctor was obsessed with a dream everybody has, but it turned out to not be a dream at all (but also be nothing scary), so I really liked that one.

 

That's why I'm so frustrated. It was so close to being one of the real greats, like Blink - a metaphor made real, a monster in the cracks of real life and something we all experience, so many great explanations ("Sometimes it feels like there's something behind you, so when you're in bed, it feels like it's beneath you, that's all it is") - but I was waiting to get an actual explanation that never came, and so I was left thoroughly unsatisfied. It wasn't just the bed, either - what breached the atmospheric bubble at the end of time? The noises you can explain away, but not all of it.

 

I think maybe Moffat's time has ended - my favourites of his were the long arcs, I actually enjoyed the long Amy/Rory/River plot - but they backed away from that after people complained it was too complicated (okay, maybe a little bit) and so we're stuck with all these episodes where they try and neatly tie it all up in 45 minutes, and it's hobbling them.

 

Most of all, I miss River Song, though. She was a strong character who stood up to the Doctor, and that brought out some of the best moments. It felt like a different, better show when she was about.

[VeryPC]

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Listen: great concept, great opening, and the bit in the kids house with the thing on the bed was some of the creepiest Dr. Who there's been in ages. But then at the end, it turns out to have all been in the Doctor's head. So, er, what was the thing on the bed? Cos it looked kind of alien, and if it was meant to be another kid winding him up, then no-one saw the door open for said kid to come in, and any other kid would have completely bottled it at the point adults were involved.

-SNIP

Listen was a really good episode, besides 'the thing under the duvet' issue - It's never explained what it is but it's entirely possible it's just something else that will be explained at a later date. Looks just like an annoying plot hole for now, which I'll admit bugged me, but I especially liked it how The Doctor was obsessed with a dream everybody has, but it turned out to not be a dream at all (but also be nothing scary), so I really liked that one.

One thing the recent Doctor Who story arcs have loved doing is dropping unnoticeable-at-the-time hints throughout a series and then referencing them all back with explanations in the finale, so I wonder if we've seen the end of this..

 

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I think maybe Moffat's time has ended...

 

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Most of all, I miss River Song, though. She was a strong character who stood up to the Doctor, and that brought out some of the best moments. It felt like a different, better show when she was about.

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Didn't Mark Gatiss write a few decent episodes of recent series (don't remember specific eps, so could be wrong about how good they were)? He's also riding high on the success of Sherlock (along with Moffat). Perhaps a candidate to take over as head writer...

 

River Song forever! Alex Kingston rules, but I reckon they're done with that character now.

 

Al

Edited October 6, 2014 by VeryPC