gpjt Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 Hi all, In terms of infrastructure and the necessity to teach Python. What have you had or planning to implement for a full class? Have you sand boxed pc's on the network, used Rasberry Pi's or come up with another solution??? Your help would be greatly received. 1
zakthetech Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 We use oracle virtual box and sandbox the lot. We use rm cc4 and they have a made it very easy to deploy a secured virtual machine accross the network. 1
synaesthesia Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 Virtualbox as heavily described in other threads. The virtual machine is 100% unrestricted, with no network access but a link to the student's home drive. Python (and lots of other languages) installed via Netbeans IDE within.
fiza Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 Virtualbox as heavily described in other threads. The virtual machine is 100% unrestricted, with no network access but a link to the student's home drive. Python (and lots of other languages) installed via Netbeans IDE within. Any instructions on how to set this up? If you have any links you could post that you have used to set up would be appreciated.
synaesthesia Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 http://www.edugeek.net/forums/how-do-you-do/95325-virtualbox-image-programming-classes.html http://www.edugeek.net/forums/how-do-you-do/95325-virtualbox-image-programming-classes-2.html#post1045907 1
fairm010 Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 Don't kow if this is of any help but we are using this here. Online Python Tutor - Learn programming by visualizing code execution
jinnantonnixx Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 (edited) another on-line one Execute Python Script Online Edited April 3, 2014 by jinnantonnixx
fiza Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 http://www.edugeek.net/forums/how-do-you-do/95325-virtualbox-image-programming-classes.html http://www.edugeek.net/forums/how-do-you-do/95325-virtualbox-image-programming-classes-2.html#post1045907 I feel an Easter break project coming my way!!
shadowx Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 Out of interest, why do you feel necessary to sandbox the Python environment? I guess it makes it a little easier since you can allow access to the terminal without any real risks but aside from that any code the kids execute will still be restricted by the permissions of the user hence the risk is fairly minimal. Since we will be using Python here in 18 months I'm curious. As it stands I would probably just install Idle on the machines and give it a test period, see how things go...
synaesthesia Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 Why not. My whole brief on this for Virtualbox was to give them as full a normal environment as possible, control panel, command prompts, full system configuration; if they therefore wish to use those in their designs they then have the full means to do so. They won't be so locked out in industry should that take up Comp Sci (ugh) so we feel it's best they have proper exposure now.
shadowx Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 Can't argue with that! I'm now mulling over VirtualBox with something like Fedora+KDE installed...
Valyyn Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 I started off with a Virtualbox VM on each machine, but it felt pretty clunky and slow, to be honest. They're now using PyScripter as a RemoteApp from a 2012R2 server that has it's firewall set to block python and pyscripter and so far it seems to be working well!
speckytecky Posted September 23, 2014 Posted September 23, 2014 Thanks duly given for the Thread @gpjt I’m NM at a small KS3/4 EDB Special School and we have a new Head of Maths / ICT. It’s been decided that our chaps will be studying GCSE Computer Science and I have been asked to install Python on the Windows 7 clients in two classrooms – by this coming Monday! I know nowt about Python but guess that it’s use is going to result in increased data saves by the lads for a start and that it’s Open Source or is it? We have O365 A2 accounts set up and I’m wondering if the GCSE is totally watertight on using Python or is the MS Alternative available allowing us to make use of the 50GB Cloud storage that each account has? As a total newbie to this any help would be very welcome especially as I don't work Fridays!
speckytecky Posted September 24, 2014 Posted September 24, 2014 Hi all, Anyone got any input to offer on my previous post please?
AlexB Posted September 24, 2014 Posted September 24, 2014 Thanks duly given for the Thread @gpjt I’m NM at a small KS3/4 EDB Special School and we have a new Head of Maths / ICT. It’s been decided that our chaps will be studying GCSE Computer Science and I have been asked to install Python on the Windows 7 clients in two classrooms – by this coming Monday! I know nowt about Python but guess that it’s use is going to result in increased data saves by the lads for a start and that it’s Open Source or is it? We have O365 A2 accounts set up and I’m wondering if the GCSE is totally watertight on using Python or is the MS Alternative available allowing us to make use of the 50GB Cloud storage that each account has? As a total newbie to this any help would be very welcome especially as I don't work Fridays! The python files that your users are going to be saving are usually plain text and very small. I'll be impressed if one of them manages to write 1MB of code over the 2 year course. (Python is generally not compiled, but instead 'run' by using the interpreter) 1
speckytecky Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 Apologies - I seem to have hijacked this thread: We have Pyton in a classroom now. The teacher is running the GUI ok but the student is getting the following message. Subprocess Startup Error IDLE’s subprocess didn’t make the connection. Either IDLE can’t start a subprocessor a firewall software is blocking a setting. Suggesting is this must be something Group Policy related - any suggestion where to look.
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