unixman_again Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 3, 2013 The college where I work surrounds a pub which has it's own brewery. The smell is lovely and the beers pretty good too! A couple of schools ago, that too surrounded a pub and I think the school may have owned it. Terrible pub - grotty and someone was shot in there while I was at work. The sixth formers liked it though! 1
soveryapt Posted June 3, 2013 Author Posted June 3, 2013 The college where I work surrounds a pub which has it's own brewery. The smell is lovely and the beers pretty good too! A couple of schools ago, that too surrounded a pub and I think the school may have owned it. Terrible pub - grotty and someone was shot in there while I was at work. The sixth formers liked it though! Wow.. Own ale as well.. yeah, now a brewery with a pub and beer garden.. oh yes.. I do keep wondering whether I could get our WiFi to reach the pub next door to the school so I can work from there, but I think that may be frowned upon! lol..
SpuffMonkey Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 3, 2013 The school where my son goes has got a bar - pretty cool I always thought, though it is part of the theatre complex
mrbios Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 3, 2013 All schools should have a staff only area of their fields. Lunch time all the kids go and sit out on the field in the sun on a day like today was, but I'm still stuck in my office.......i know i COULD go out there, but i don't like children, and i like peace and quiet when eating lunch hence the idea Our schools right next to two pubs, so no need for a bar here
pcstru Posted June 4, 2013 Posted June 4, 2013 A.i know i COULD go out there, but i don't like children Have you ever thought that working in a school might not be ... for you ... ideal.
mrbios Posted June 4, 2013 Posted June 4, 2013 Have you ever thought that working in a school might not be ... for you ... ideal. Hey there's nothing wrong with the job, not a problem with supporting them, but can't stand being around them when they're out playing in active mode...they become nightmares on the field/in the corridors etc.
tech_guy Posted June 4, 2013 Posted June 4, 2013 (edited) Yeah, pubs in schools why not? The way the government is running this country, most of them will be on the dole and alcoholics by 20 anyway. Seeing as they're sticking a pub on the M40 service station junction 2 let's just go the whole hog and get it over and done with shall we? Now you can get p!$$ed as you drive on the M40 /RANT OVER Edited June 4, 2013 by tech_guy
Gatt Posted June 4, 2013 Posted June 4, 2013 i know i COULD go out there, but i don't like children Speaking from experience - I'd be careful what you say on a public forum - even if it seems innocent enough! I got stung big time for committing such a "heinous" crime
pcstru Posted June 4, 2013 Posted June 4, 2013 Hey there's nothing wrong with the job, not a problem with supporting them, but can't stand being around them when they're out playing in active mode...they become nightmares on the field/in the corridors etc. Here, they have started making it part of the job description that staff to do supervision at break and lunchtimes. Ironically, this does not apply to teachers unless they are paid extra as senior leaders.
tech_guy Posted June 4, 2013 Posted June 4, 2013 Speaking from experience - I'd be careful what you say on a public forum - even if it seems innocent enough! I got stung big time for committing such a "heinous" crime Tell me about it! I regularly get beaten up over posts on here!
witch Posted June 4, 2013 Posted June 4, 2013 Here, they have started making it part of the job description that staff to do supervision at break and lunchtimes. Ironically, this does not apply to teachers unless they are paid extra as senior leaders. That has always been the case in every school I have worked or helped in for the past 20 years - I think that is just standard, isn't it?
pcstru Posted June 4, 2013 Posted June 4, 2013 That has always been the case in every school I have worked or helped in for the past 20 years - I think that is just standard, isn't it? Assume you mean associate staff doing supervision rather than teachers not doing it? Interesting question - Time for a poll...
tech_guy Posted June 4, 2013 Posted June 4, 2013 Well, when they get rid of the TAs we'll all be expected to do rubb!$h stuff like this I guess. It's not in my JD so they can go hang.
witch Posted June 4, 2013 Posted June 4, 2013 Um, I meant that in all the schools I have worked/helped in, teachers, TAs (and certainly SLT below AH) have had to do playground duty at break and lunch. But not the admin or tech staff (Yay!)
CAM Posted June 4, 2013 Posted June 4, 2013 Ahh student supervision. Been there, done that, destroyed my morale and ended up taking over my entire job. Number one reason why I flew the coop to a rival school and would never do it again! 1
HarryMonkey Posted June 4, 2013 Posted June 4, 2013 Well, when they get rid of the TAs we'll all be expected to do rubb!$h stuff like this I guess. It's not in my JD so they can go hang. Do you not have the bit that says "any other duties as decided by the headteacher"?
witch Posted June 4, 2013 Posted June 4, 2013 Do you not have the bit that says "any other duties as decided by the headteacher"? Yes, but if your job has never included any responsibility for children - unlike TAs or teachers - it can be deemed unreasonable
rickjames Posted June 4, 2013 Posted June 4, 2013 Yeah, pubs in schools why not? The way the government is running this country, most of them will be on the dole and alcoholics by 20 anyway. Seeing as they're sticking a pub on the M40 service station junction 2 let's just go the whole hog and get it over and done with shall we? Now you can get p!$$ed as you drive on the M40 /RANT OVER Broken effing Britain. 1
HarryMonkey Posted June 4, 2013 Posted June 4, 2013 Yes, but if your job has never included any responsibility for children - unlike TAs or teachers - it can be deemed unreasonable Absolutely, however, the average SLT is going to say that as we work in a school we are all responsible for children. (I don't necessarily agree with this btw).
witch Posted June 4, 2013 Posted June 4, 2013 Absolutely, however, the average SLT is going to say that as we work in a school we are all responsible for children. (I don't necessarily agree with this btw). They can say what they like - but it equates to asking a teacher to mend their own computer according to a friend of mine who consulted her union after being told to do lunchtime supervision - not within her remit
Flatpackhamster Posted June 4, 2013 Posted June 4, 2013 Broken effing Britain. So it's "broken Britain" to have a pint with your lunch if you're a passenger in a car? Woe unto us... How patronising to think that drivers are suddenly going to start swilling the ale after 3 decades of falling drink-driving rates and falling road deaths. Should we close pubs by main roads too? After all, look at the 'temptation' for drivers to knock one back.
HarryMonkey Posted June 4, 2013 Posted June 4, 2013 They can say what they like - but it equates to asking a teacher to mend their own computer according to a friend of mine who consulted her union after being told to do lunchtime supervision - not within her remit That's a fair point however, teachers have regulations and agreements in place that control what they are and aren't expected to do. We, as support staff don't. Incidentally, whenever a lunch or breaktime duty becomes available here, an email is sent round to all staff asking them if they are interested (it carries an extra payment of around £15/hr). As support staff here only get 30 minutes for lunch, there is no way we could apply. We are ,however, expected to act as fire marshalls ... when the fire alarm sounds (= the building is burning down), we are expected to sweep through the school making sure there is no-one still inside and that little Johnnie hasn't shut himself in the English cupboard. I've refused to do it yet still keep being told that I have to attend fire marshal training and to explain why I am unable (not unwilling) to be a fire marshal.
rickjames Posted June 4, 2013 Posted June 4, 2013 So it's "broken Britain" to have a pint with your lunch if you're a passenger in a car? Woe unto us... How patronising to think that drivers are suddenly going to start swilling the ale after 3 decades of falling drink-driving rates and falling road deaths. Should we close pubs by main roads too? After all, look at the 'temptation' for drivers to knock one back. 'Falling drink driving rates' or not, one death by drink driving is frankly one too many. 1
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