mrwobbly Posted February 14, 2013 Posted February 14, 2013 Has anyone any experience of satellite broadband for home. If I cancel my 1.8Mb down at best, broadband and the home phone which I only have for broadband it’s the same price but 20Mb down, 6Mb up. I’m 4 km from the exchange in a very small village and my phone line has had constant problems for the past 18 months. It’s got to the stage of having no broadband for three days every two to three weeks. My mobile phone goes through broadband when at home so I lose that when it’s down also.
timbo343 Posted February 14, 2013 Posted February 14, 2013 Yes, many years ago and if its raining or snowing you can say bye bye to your connection. Even wind can have a problem esp if you have got trees in your line of sight 1
CyberNerd Posted February 14, 2013 Posted February 14, 2013 terrible ping times if you have to go to space and back. 1
glennda Posted February 14, 2013 Posted February 14, 2013 As @CyberNerd says the latency on those connections are huge - anything up to 350ms which comparable with cable is god damn awful. 1
mrwobbly Posted February 14, 2013 Author Posted February 14, 2013 Ping times are not a problem as I’m not a gamer or going to use voip. Ping on my current line at the moment 75ms. I’m not sure if it will affect my mobile phone but being able to have it working all the time is a small price to pay. At the moment wind and rain leaves me with no broadband for days on end but Freesat works faultlessly. I’ll phone some suppliers and ask about ping times. The technology seems to have moved on a lot since I last looked and prices are coming down. A couple of years ago it was down only and you needed the telephone for up. I will never see cable or ADSL2 where I am so no point comparing sat ping to cable or am I on the wrong track. I'm in a little village with about 30 properties.
glennda Posted February 14, 2013 Posted February 14, 2013 Ping times are not a problem as I’m not a gamer or going to use voip. Ping on my current line at the moment 75ms. I’m not sure if it will affect my mobile phone but being able to have it working all the time is a small price to pay. At the moment wind and rain leaves me with no broadband for days on end but Freesat works faultlessly. I’ll phone some suppliers and ask about ping times. The technology seems to have moved on a lot since I last looked and prices are coming down. A couple of years ago it was down only and you needed the telephone for up. I will never see cable or ADSL2 where I am so no point comparing sat ping to cable or am I on the wrong track. I'm in a little village with about 30 properties. Its not just ping times - its repsonses to web requests etc that will also be affected. It can when I have looked into it previously appear to be just as slow to an end user as a low speed ADSL circuit because of the higher latency. This document explains it quite well - Latency in Networking - Speed and High Latency 1
twin--turbo Posted February 14, 2013 Posted February 14, 2013 low earth orbit is considerably better but considerably costlier. I tried a geo-stat but wasted 10hrs on it. better results from 3G!! Rob
mrwobbly Posted February 16, 2013 Author Posted February 16, 2013 Oh Dear. Ping of 915ms with 0.13Mb download speed today and thats on ADSL. Satellite is looking more of an option each day.
SYNACK Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 As @CyberNerd says the latency on those connections are huge - anything up to 350ms which comparable with cable is god damn awful. Hey, don't mock my ping time, that's what I used to get to the old edugeek server.
m25man Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 I used satellite some years back to link a VPN from UK to Monaco it cost a fortune and was a real headache. Times have moved on and its nowhere near as painful Fast broadband for rural locations | ToowayDirect The price seems reasonable too. You could look at WISP options in your area, or if you have friends or family within line of site you could consider 5ghz P2P. Install cable or Infinity at the remote location then beam it back to you by P2P wireless. I have had 180Mbps over a 9 mile link using Ubiquiti Nanostations. 1
CyberNerd Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 I just spotted a timely article on this very subject: Satellite Internet faster than advertised, but latency still awful | Ars Technica
MatthewL Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 Watch for hidden costs, we looked at putting it in the village before ADSL was available and there was some shocking costs. 1
timbo343 Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 This might be one for @john to recommend B4RN maybe?
john Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 B4rn is a great solution however its not a nationwide thing its just the rural area around where I live (and some other members) but that kind of scheme needs some major planning and entire villages getting together not just a few houses.
mrwobbly Posted February 16, 2013 Author Posted February 16, 2013 Watch for hidden costs, we looked at putting it in the village before ADSL was available and there was some shocking costs. Pricing packages seem to have become somewhat compatable for downloads with standard ADSL or cable in the past few months.
mrwobbly Posted February 16, 2013 Author Posted February 16, 2013 I used satellite some years back to link a VPN from UK to Monaco it cost a fortune and was a real headache. Times have moved on and its nowhere near as painful Fast broadband for rural locations | ToowayDirect The price seems reasonable too. You could look at WISP options in your area, or if you have friends or family within line of site you could consider 5ghz P2P. Install cable or Infinity at the remote location then beam it back to you by P2P wireless. I have had 180Mbps over a 9 mile link using Ubiquiti Nanostations. Hills on all sides so that rules out line of sight and explains why no mobile phone signals are available.
mrwobbly Posted February 16, 2013 Author Posted February 16, 2013 I used satellite some years back to link a VPN from UK to Monaco it cost a fortune and was a real headache. Times have moved on and its nowhere near as painful Fast broadband for rural locations | ToowayDirect The price seems reasonable too. You could look at WISP options in your area, or if you have friends or family within line of site you could consider 5ghz P2P. Install cable or Infinity at the remote location then beam it back to you by P2P wireless. I have had 180Mbps over a 9 mile link using Ubiquiti Nanostations. I've been looking at Tooway from various providers and while it's not a viable option for most would be a vast improvement for me. I've been looking at the experience of people in a similar situation who have had recent installs on the forums on ThinkBroadband. It seems very positive if you can accept the latency. The Ofcom report gives positive conclusions on upload/download and video streaming which are my main uses.
twin--turbo Posted February 17, 2013 Posted February 17, 2013 it was a Tooway that I wasted 10+ Hrs on. it was supposed to be a transportable but the BASE was so diffiuclt to level and stabalise that doing the alignment was a nightmare, and even when we had the base level and solid we struggled to get a lock. 3G is much better, if needbe get a decent antenna on it and you will get good downloads. TT 1
difinity Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 One of my customers text me at the weekend overjoyed at her new satellite connection, she can now stream cat and fail videos without buffering from YouTube. 22Mb/s she said she was getting. I can ask her who she is with etc. if required. 1
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