russdev Posted June 20, 2005 Posted June 20, 2005 ok not sure but think all schools are going through this.. basicly taking managment scales and replacing them with tlr but as part of that can do whole school payreview inc support staff such as lsa, it support So be warned look out and checking with your union saying that unison rep at county hall hadn;t been told it would effect support staff... Russ
ChrisH Posted June 20, 2005 Posted June 20, 2005 Suppose I should have read the title. I seemed to have missed that. You will wear google out though geoff if your not carefull.
Geoff Posted June 20, 2005 Posted June 20, 2005 One hardware failure in their Linux cluster every 9 seconds IIRC.
russdev Posted June 20, 2005 Author Posted June 20, 2005 lol biggest problem as i see with tlr is that it will be used as cost cutting.. any gmb members what does your union reps have to say about it all.. any other school staff been told about it? Russ
MkII Posted June 20, 2005 Posted June 20, 2005 I'm a new Unison rep - the 'Schools Workforce Agreement' affects non teaching staff a WHOLE LOT! Teachers are being relieved of the admin tasks they perform so that they can be more effectively employed doing what they're paid for. Serious cash is therefore being pumped into schools to pay for the increased workload/responsibility this passes on to support staff. Some 80million in Welsh schools - which by law MUST be spent on precisely that. Schools will filter it away into other things tho' as they usually do. I'm not being cynical there - that's just a fact. The budget defecit to welsh schools = ~2%, the extra money to pay support staff also equates to ~2% ...Hmmm. Job evaluation is taking place now in our authority. Schools are insisting it doesn't apply to tham, but the Council, the Unions and everyone else says different. The idea is that identical jobs should be paid on a single scale, and not individually decided by schools as they are at present. Don't say anything to your Head about this tho' unless you're tired of your job:). Just sit it out and see what happens. Happily our school is following WAMGI (Workforce Agreement Monitoring Group) guidelines. Available here: http://www.remodelling.org/download.php?dl_cat=37&fname=&x=20&y=12
russdev Posted June 20, 2005 Author Posted June 20, 2005 but isn;t tlr and wforce remodel two different things... Russ
MkII Posted June 20, 2005 Posted June 20, 2005 but isn't tlr and wforce remodel two different things...Ah yes! :oops: hehe! It's just that pay reviews are happenning as well for support staff - maybe not linked with the teaching staff one tho' - as far as i'm aware.
ninjabeaver Posted June 20, 2005 Posted June 20, 2005 This is chucking the elephant dung heap into the wind turbines to say the least. I can see s**t being scattered for miles after this beauty comes up. The rumblings here are that many of the teaching staff might well walk. I'm going to hang on and see what happens. The ancillary staff will possibly be up ina arms over it as well due to the ever increasing workload being taken on by them as is. It's going to be ....... 'interesting'!
MkII Posted June 20, 2005 Posted June 20, 2005 This is chucking the elephant dung heap into the wind turbines to say the least.ROTFL!!
tarquel Posted June 21, 2005 Posted June 21, 2005 Thats a great saying lol - shall have to remember that I cant get any less pay Maybe we should start a "How much are you on?" type-thread Cheers, N.
MkII Posted June 23, 2005 Posted June 23, 2005 I just got a letter today asking for a unison member to be on the staffing metings for TLR. Reading the blurb the instruction is to allocate some money to support staff that have taken on extra resposibility and work. In our school new staff have been promoted and long standing staff have been overlooked yet handed the majority of the work. I'm not expecting to see much happen for support staff to be honest. So here in Powys we have the Workforce agreement - Job evaluation and now TLR - all of 'em promising to give us more money! - We gotta win somehow surely!
tarquel Posted June 24, 2005 Posted June 24, 2005 I really really hope so - I need the cash soon (g/f is sooo demanding lol [joking] lol) Cheers, N.
russdev Posted September 8, 2005 Author Posted September 8, 2005 hi was wondering how people are getting on with school restrucutre what proccess are schools at.. Here we have got union rep meeting later with head where he will be go start proccess... Thought this might help came from our union at lea.. "Below are the guidance notes that have been sent to headteachers about the process If you have any concerns let me know. Any change to a support staff post must follow the following process The need for additional staff and the appropriate pay and grading for any new post. Where the duties of existing staff are revised the suitability of the role, workload and contractual hours, training needs, and a review of pay and grading have to be considered. The grade of any post for support staff in a community school must be selected from the LEA grades. any revision of job descriptions should normally be agreed between the head and the member of staff. Any extention of working hours must be by agreement. " also details here http://www.unison.org.uk/education/schools/pages_view.asp?did=2093 Russ
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