martin_hannah Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 Our macs here used to be set up so users got their AD network home drives mapped when they login in when the path was in the following format in AD; \\fileserver\username$ However to make adding new users easier for ourselves we changed the AD accounts so the home directory path is now as follows; \\fileserver\users$\Students\YearGroup\username This works fine in windows but on the macs it just maps users$ which they don't have permission to so.. Is there an easy way of fixing this? I've written this applescript which ejects the users$ share, queries AD for the current users home directory, converts the \\ into / and maps that as an SMB share. However i'm hoping there's an easier way of doing this that i've missed as i've got to apply this to around 100 macs.. set diskName to "users$" tell application "Finder" if disk diskName exists then eject disk diskName else end if end tell set homedir to (do shell script "dscl /Active\\ Directory/domainname.org.uk -read /Users/$USER SMBHome | grep \\\\\\\\.* -o") set x to SaR(homedir, "\\", "/") on SaR(sourceText, findText, replaceText) set {atid, AppleScript's text item delimiters} to {AppleScript's text item delimiters, findText} set tempText to text items of sourceText set AppleScript's text item delimiters to replaceText set sourceText to tempText as string set AppleScript's text item delimiters to atid return sourceText end SaR set networkhomedir to the result mount volume "smb:" & networkhomedir as text Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks, Martin
kirchie Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 The amount of people I've seen with fancy scripts for mapping AD network drives is starting to make me think that I've done something wrong! All I've done for our AD/OD is set the macs to use the path in AD to map the user's home drive (Directory Utility -> Services -> AD -> Advanced -> Use UNC path from AD), and that seems to do the trick.
martin_hannah Posted September 21, 2012 Author Posted September 21, 2012 The amount of people I've seen with fancy scripts for mapping AD network drives is starting to make me think that I've done something wrong! All I've done for our AD/OD is set the macs to use the path in AD to map the user's home drive (Directory Utility -> Services -> AD -> Advanced -> Use UNC path from AD), and that seems to do the trick. Kirchie, This worked previously before the student's UNC paths were changed, it seems that the macs weren't too happy with the home directory being a subfolder within a share. The staff here still have their home directories UNC paths shared out like \\server\username$ and that works fine it's just the students who have had their UNC paths changed to \\server\user$\Students\Yeargroup\Username Spent a while checking through everything in directory utility to no avail so I went down the scripting route.. How are your UNC paths inputted in AD out of interest? Cheers, Martin
kirchie Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 We have \\studentFS\student home$\year entered\Student name Staff have a simmilar structure, only it's grouped by deparment rather than year. I don't envy you at all with the blasted things. I'm fed up with them, and they're going to be bootcamped with Win7 next week. Should make things so much easier to manage!
dayzd Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 Can you not give students 'Traverse folder' permissions on the fileserver so they can see through the users$ folder to their own folder below? I vaguely remember having to do this once and I don't think I needed a companion script to get it to work...
apeman Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 What are you hosting the user accounts on??
Guest Guest Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 'Traverse folder' permissions Id suggest its this too
apeman Posted September 24, 2012 Posted September 24, 2012 Yes if this is a windows box setup like this \\server1\users\username your share permissions should be authenticated users full control your NTFS permissions on the users folder should be System full, Local/Domain admins full and authenticated users read/list. Also remember to turn off inheritance/propagate permissions your NTFS permissions on the username folder should be System Full, Local/Domain admins full and username read/list/execute/write/modify Also if this is a windows box you can turn on Access Based Enumeration and this will hide any folders the users don't have access too.
martin_hannah Posted October 12, 2012 Author Posted October 12, 2012 Thanks apeman, The network home drives are all on a server 2003 box, the macs connect using SMB. I tried applying all permissions suggested by yourself and it is still mapping the root of the share as a drive which is 3 levels up from the users folder ie; \\server\users$\ADSync\Student\YearGroup\Username Is there anything else I can try? On another note the script that I am using for mapping the drives is now failing.. I copied the script locally and set it to run on log in through WGM. This was fine for a while but it's now corrupted the script .app file. Is there a better way to run log in scripts in an open directory environment, the script is written in applescript. Many thanks, Martin
dayzd Posted October 16, 2012 Posted October 16, 2012 I've used bash whenever I've done login scripts. Never had them not run or become corrupt once. I actually had a slightly more complicated login script arrangement, that kind of mimicked the 'netlogon' method of Windows systems. Each machine had a short script installed locally which ran on login. This script would mount a share on the server, copy the 'real' login script to the local machine and then run it. This way I only had to make changes to the one copy on the server, and at next login the machines would run that instead. Saved loads of effort in deploying changes! It also kept the local version on disk, so that if the remote share could not be mounted, it ran the last version it had, making sure any environment settings or drive mountings would still be applied.
apeman Posted October 16, 2012 Posted October 16, 2012 What version of 2003 is it?? 2003 or 2003 R2?? What are the permissions on ADSync, Students, YearGroup and Username?? I would also try and move away from login scripts they aren't supported in 10.7 and above.
martin_hannah Posted October 22, 2012 Author Posted October 22, 2012 Yes I would much prefer not not have to rely on login scripts but at the moment it's the only way of getting the student's home drives mapped for them. (however flaky it's being) The permissions need sorting out over the half term as students currently have the ability to write directly to the users$ share which is occasionally getting mapped for them on both mac and windows. To sort this i'm going to remove all 'Local users' write permissions, not sure how this got there in the first place.. Permissions are as follows; Highest Level; E:\Users - Shared as users$ Share Permissions - Everyone Full Control NTFS - Auth Users - Read/List/Transverse - Creator/Owner - Full - System - Full - Local Administrators - Full - Local Users - Transverse/Write Data/Append Data E:\Users\ADSync - Not Shared NTFS - Creator/Owner - Full - System - Full - Local Administrators - Full - Local Users - Transverse/Write Data/Append Data E:\Users\ADSync\Students - Not Shared NTFS - Creator/Owner - Full - System - Full - Local Administrators - Full - Local Users - Transverse/Write Data/Append Data - Staff - Read/List/Transverse E:\Users\ADSync\Students\YearGroup - Not Shared NTFS - Creator/Owner - Full - System - Full - Local Administrators - Full - Local Users - Transverse/Write Data/Append Data - Staff - Read/List/Transverse E:\Users\ADSync\Students\YearGroup\Username - Not Shared NTFS - Creator/Owner - Full - System - Full - Local Administrators - Full - Local Users - Transverse/Write Data/Append Data - Staff - Read/List/Transverse - Username - Full So students, being a member of authenticated users and local users (through domain users) do have at least transverse permissions all the way down the folder path. Cheers for the help for far! Let me know your thoughts.. Martin
martin_hannah Posted October 22, 2012 Author Posted October 22, 2012 And it's server 2003 standard. Thanks! Martin
martin_hannah Posted October 30, 2012 Author Posted October 30, 2012 I've tried this again today on a new test folder structure with correct permissions as per apeman's previous post and I've still got the same issue. I can now browse to the users folder from the users$ share but this still isn't ideal.. I ideally want students to be able to access their network home drives directly. All I want to know is if what I am trying to achieve is actually possible or if my best bet is to revert back to username$ shares (not favourable) Thanks, Martin
DMcCoy Posted October 30, 2012 Posted October 30, 2012 (edited) What version of OS X? Older ones simply don't support mounting subfolders with the AD plugin. It happens with AFP too. You don't need user shares, but year group will work: You can mount 2012\username for example, I just had a share for each intake year and updated AD to match for windows with administrative shares further up for convenience. Edited October 30, 2012 by DMcCoy
CyberDrac Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 Apologies for the thread necromancy, just hit the same issue myself and wondered if a resolution was every found?
seawolf Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 I would suggest using a file path like \\fileserver\Students\%username% - this will work just fine. I think you've gone from no organisation for student home accounts to an unnecessary level of organisation. If you are interested in scripting shares then try this out - Script to Map Network Shares on OSX (AFP or SMB) - Blogs - EduGeek.net Create the script as an App, install it on all of the Macs and set a trigger to have it run at login, and periodically if you want (every 30). This can all be done using AppleScript.
seawolf Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 E:\Users - Shared as users$ Share Permissions - Everyone Full Control NTFS - Auth Users - Read/List/Transverse - Creator/Owner - Full - System - Full - Local Administrators - Full - Local Users - Transverse/Write Data/Append Data E:\Users\ADSync - Not Shared NTFS - Creator/Owner - Full - System - Full - Local Administrators - Full - Local Users - Transverse/Write Data/Append Data E:\Users\ADSync\Students - Not Shared NTFS - Creator/Owner - Full - System - Full - Local Administrators - Full - Local Users - Transverse/Write Data/Append Data - Staff - Read/List/Transverse E:\Users\ADSync\Students\YearGroup - Not Shared NTFS - Creator/Owner - Full - System - Full - Local Administrators - Full - Local Users - Transverse/Write Data/Append Data - Staff - Read/List/Transverse E:\Users\ADSync\Students\YearGroup\Username - Not Shared NTFS - Creator/Owner - Full - System - Full - Local Administrators - Full - Local Users - Transverse/Write Data/Append Data - Staff - Read/List/Transverse - Username - Full So students, being a member of authenticated users and local users (through domain users) do have at least transverse permissions all the way down the folder path. Cheers for the help for far! Let me know your thoughts.. Martin I think the problem could be that you are referencing a share "users$" in the path of your home directory location, instead of sharing out the actual file path (e.g. \\fileserver\users\YearGroup\) you are trying to map. So, OSX stops at the only location that is actually shared "\fileserver\users$" - I doubt that would ever work. I haven't tried it, but can't see how it could work.
furby Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 All my user shares are "\\fileserver\users$\" and works fine, don't think anything special is going on with permissions.
seawolf Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 All my user shares are "\\fileserver\users$\" and works fine, don't think anything special is going on with permissions. Yes, "\fileserver\users$\" would work fine, but "\fileserver\users$\Students\YearGroup\" would not because only "users$" is shared and not "YearGroup" - that is the problem the OP had.
CyberDrac Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 I established that the share without the extra sub folders worked for my test pupil, however it turns out this wasn't exactly the same issue as the OP. Once I had ticked the overlooked "Force local home directory creation on start-up disk" tick box it 'just worked' and worked with our existing structure. Thank you for everyone who contributed to this thread and several others on EduGeek, without this resource I would have probably never worked it out.
furby Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 Yes, "\fileserver\users$\" would work fine, but "\fileserver\users$\Students\YearGroup\" would not because only "users$" is shared and not "YearGroup" - that is the problem the OP had. Oops, didn't read the whole thing, my bad. Good to see people solving the dark of AD integration.
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