tech_guy Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 Has he got a book coming out soon or something? Give it a break, Jamie. You're a doofus. BBC News - Jamie Oliver says healthy school food standards 'eroded'
DAZZD88 Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 I think it's a bit harsh calling him a doofus. Yeah fair enough everybody doesn't see eye to eye with him but he is trying to make a positive change in schools in orderto give pupils a healthier lifestyle. How many things would you like to change in school? I know there are many things I'd change here and there are things I would like to change nationwide. The difference between Jamie Oliver and us is that he can use his celebrity status to bring issues such as school food to the attention of the public and wecannot. 1
JonWPS Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 "It is the return of the sausage roll to schools." I'm outraged!
LosOjos Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 I for one, love a good sausage roll. Dirty boy. [thought I'd beat @tech_guy & @mattx to it!]
penfold Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 Has he got a book coming out soon or something? Give it a break, Jamie. You're a doofus. BBC News - Jamie Oliver says healthy school food standards 'eroded' To be fair whether you think he's a doofus or not, he's making a good point. Considering the amount of obese people something needs to be done, and children shouldn't be living a lifestyle of fastfood and no exercise. I'm sure he has got a book out for christmas, but lets be honest who hasn't. However, this quote from the article "The changes were not universally liked, and some parents took to passing their children fast food through the railings of their school." I wouldn't normally have believed but my girlfriend works in a school who has a pupil who is having special meals due to being overweight. But the first thing that happens when his parents pick him up is he gets given a back of crisps/sweets. So anyone who can use their celebrity status to make changes for the better is donig a good thing in my opinion.
Popular Post X-13 Posted November 25, 2011 Popular Post Posted November 25, 2011 I'm outraged! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBCq8XDgrP0 5
X-13 Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 i second @X-13 You second me... But do you really second me? [/flute.mp3]
CAM Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 The question is, why are academies not subject to the guidelines? Surely the government should still have a say or is it a stealth attempt at scrapping the guidelines so they don't have to bother keeping an eye on food standards?
jinnantonnixx Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 You second me... But do you really second me? [/flute.mp3] I third you.
elsiegee40 Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 The question is, why are academies not subject to the guidelines? Surely the government should still have a say or is it a stealth attempt at scrapping the guidelines so they don't have to bother keeping an eye on food standards? I agree. I know the academies are supposed to be free from 'red tape', but there are still academic standards they should meet.... why not food standards? Jamie Oliver may not be everyone's cup of tea, but he did spark a change for the better in standards of food at schools. The food subsidy is just part of the lump sum budget in academies, not ring-fenced, so some academies are choosing to spend some of that money on other things and thus spending less per head on school meal provision. And as for healthy food standards, I have first hand experience of seeing them slip post-academisation. At my eldest's school, donuts, etc are now back on the menu. My kids were discussing it this morning. The school became a new-style academy about 8 months ago.
Guest Guest Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 The problem with the change he made is kids who don't want to eat proper food will still carry on eating junk regardless. In our school I regularly see kids having 2 pieces of cake as their meal as there is nothing else they like (want). Even the more healthy eaters simply eat pasta, which, if you don't do the exercise to burn off the carbs, isn't much healthier. You can't simply regulate what is available by cutting down on choice, as that's all it does, cut choice. You need to change societies attitudes and the rest will follow. Prohibition has never, and will never, work.
LosOjos Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 Bring back the turkey twizzler!!!! I thought they were the best thing since sliced chocolate as a kid but have you tried one now you're an adult?!
tech_guy Posted November 25, 2011 Author Posted November 25, 2011 Just give me a burger with all the bad bits of dead animals in it. Salads are for wimps.
elsiegee40 Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 It's difficult enforcing junk food rules, the bit of Jamie's campaign I really agree with is increasing the amount of money per head used to sibsidise meals. In academies that money is not ring fenced, so the school can reduce spend which means the kitchens will use lower quality indredients due to budget constaints. This is what leads to turkey twizzlers. They're cheaper than proper meat. If a decent amount of money is spent on ingredients, the overall quality of the meal will improve
X-13 Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 It's difficult enforcing junk food rules, the bit of Jamie's campaign I really agree with is increasing the amount of money per head used to sibsidise meals. In academies that money is not ring fenced, so the school can reduce spend which means the kitchens will use lower quality indredients due to budget constaints. This is what leads to turkey twizzlers. They're cheaper than proper meat. If a decent amount of money is spent on ingredients, the overall quality of the meal will improve Didn't he show that you can get a good balanced meal for the same price as the crap? [Possibly cheaper] It's not really to do with cost, but to do with pandering to what children want. Junk food tastes nice.
featured_spectre Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 In the UK the stats are this (in terms of budget) Prisoners get £2.74 per meal per day Military get £2.39 per meal per day Schools get £1.70 per meal per day Mr Gove wants it reduced to this Prisoners get £2.50 per meal per day Military get £2.10 per meal per day Schools get £1.60 per meal per day How can this be justified? Jamie Oliver is bang on the money about improving the standards and IMHO it is LONG over due, and needed to be done back when I was in school, if not before then!
Arthur Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 Interesting stats, Nephilim. When you take into account rising food prices and inflation, I don't see how the cuts can be justified. The fact that prisoners get over £1 more per meal compared to schools is crazy.
featured_spectre Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 Don't make me go into hospitals, care homes, specialist children's centres etc. They're marginally better than schools, but due to budget cuts some are sacrificing making hot meals!!!
Flatpackhamster Posted November 26, 2011 Posted November 26, 2011 I for one, love a good sausage roll. So do I. Sadly the only way to get a good sausage roll is to make it yourself. The 'processed rusk and pig product wrapped in warm cloth' that passes for the commercial sausage roll isn't worthy of the name.
Flatpackhamster Posted November 26, 2011 Posted November 26, 2011 Didn't he show that you can get a good balanced meal for the same price as the crap? [Possibly cheaper] It's not really to do with cost, but to do with pandering to what children want. Junk food tastes nice. You can produce the balanced meal for the same price. However, what that production requires is a kitchen and trained cooks. The catering companies don't like the expense of trained cooks - it's much cheaper to provide Microwave Monkeys. Not that school dinners were anything to write home about at my first school - the quality was dismal even with 'trained cooks'.
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