TheMan100 Posted April 23, 2011 Posted April 23, 2011 Hi, I need to get an ethernet cable to another room upstairs, however I need the cable to be able to fit through narrow spaces; I then came across a 'flat' CAT5e cable. A link can be seen below, but I'm sure most of you know what I'm on about: 5m FLAT Cat5e Ethernet/Patch Cable: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics If I use a 'flat' CAT5e opposed to a 'normal' CAT5e, will the speed/performance be decreased? The cable will be approximately 35m~ Thanks. 1
mjs_mjs Posted April 23, 2011 Posted April 23, 2011 we had a load of flat 1m patch cables from CPC, they wern't bad but havent lasted int he classroom - we used them in the cabs instead. dont remember any problems or issues with speed. 1
ihaveaproblem Posted April 23, 2011 Posted April 23, 2011 There is no speed difference:) You get exactly the same as you would with a round cat5 cable. 1
EduTech Posted April 23, 2011 Posted April 23, 2011 Yup! I have used quite a few of these now.. no speed difference it is still exactly the same the cable is just set differently Have Fun! James. 1
localzuk Posted April 23, 2011 Posted April 23, 2011 If the cable doesn't twist the wires inside, they will be a lot more susceptible to interference.
plexer Posted April 23, 2011 Posted April 23, 2011 There is a reason why cat5e has twisted pairs twisted around each other but for general use it would be fine. Ben
mjs_mjs Posted April 23, 2011 Posted April 23, 2011 the flat ones we had did have twisted pairs - almost like the core had been braided all together. it wasn't like telephone cable.... this is twisted Google Image Result for http://www.asia.ru/images/img/237676/FLT.jpg and this isn't Google Image Result for http://www.solwise.co.uk/images/cable-flat8-small.jpg so might be worth making sure you can get twisted stuff if poss.
SYNACK Posted April 23, 2011 Posted April 23, 2011 If the cable doesn't twist the wires inside, they will be a lot more susceptible to interference. Plus a lot. It is twisted pair for a reason, if it is not twisted in pairs inside the cable it will turn the whole thing into a radio transmitter/reciver causing a bunch of interfearence in the cable. The twisted ones from mjs_mjs's links should be fine for short runs though.
TheMan100 Posted April 23, 2011 Author Posted April 23, 2011 (edited) I've just been looking on eBay and stumbled across this... BLACK 10M FLAT NETWORK ETHERNET CAT5E CABLE / LEAD RJ45 | eBay UK £99?! You must be having a laugh, it's only 10 meters long. Edited April 23, 2011 by TheMan100
EduTech Posted April 23, 2011 Posted April 23, 2011 I've just been looking on eBay and stumbled across this... BLACK 10M FLAT NETWORK ETHERNET CAT5E CABLE / LEAD RJ45 | eBay UK £99?! You must be having a laugh, it's only 10 meters long. Some poor sole whom doesn't know will end up buying it..
TheMan100 Posted April 23, 2011 Author Posted April 23, 2011 (edited) What exactly do I need to search for when looking specifically for a 'twisted' ethernet cable? EDIT: I think I'm getting somewhere, is it a UTP or an FTP cable I need? Edit x2: I see FTP cuts out more interference than UTP but they're both twisted. Thanks. Edited April 24, 2011 by TheMan100
FN-GM Posted April 23, 2011 Posted April 23, 2011 Some poor sole whom doesn't know will end up buying it.. 26 have been sold under this item number!!
SYNACK Posted April 24, 2011 Posted April 24, 2011 What exactly do I need to search for when looking specifically for a 'twisted' ethernet cable? EDIT: I think I'm getting somewhere, is it a UTP or an FTP cable I need? Edit x2: I see FTP cuts out more interference than UTP but they're both twisted. Thanks. I'm assuming that FTP is Flat Twisted Pair and UTP is usually Unsheilded Twisted Pair. I'm not sure where you got the interference bit though as UTP is the standard stuff so the flat stuff cutting out more interference is extremely unlikely.
mjs_mjs Posted April 24, 2011 Posted April 24, 2011 I'm assuming that FTP is Flat Twisted Pair and UTP is usually Unsheilded Twisted Pair. i thought ftp was foiled twisted pair but it is defiantly shielded and doesn't mean flat sorry. wiki has more info Twisted pair - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, i realise it's not always the best source.
Andrew_C Posted April 24, 2011 Posted April 24, 2011 (edited) FTP = Foil (screened) Twisted Pair UTP = Unscreened Twisted Pair Twisted pair - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Edit - Don't know what happened there, it definitely didn't take me 25 mins to write my reply! Edited April 24, 2011 by Andrew_C Too slow
TheMan100 Posted April 24, 2011 Author Posted April 24, 2011 I'm assuming that FTP is Flat Twisted Pair and UTP is usually Unsheilded Twisted Pair. I'm not sure where you got the interference bit though as UTP is the standard stuff so the flat stuff cutting out more interference is extremely unlikely. I got the interference bit because FTP (Foil Twisted Pair) has foil wrapped around the wires (as far as I know), thus cutting out more interference.
SYNACK Posted April 24, 2011 Posted April 24, 2011 I got the interference bit because FTP (Foil Twisted Pair) has foil wrapped around the wires (as far as I know), thus cutting out more interference. Ah, given the topic I was assuming that it was flat UTP rather than sheilded stuff, my bad, I have never even seen FTP in use or otherwise.
dhicks Posted April 24, 2011 Posted April 24, 2011 Hi, I need to get an ethernet cable to another room upstairs, however I need the cable to be able to fit through narrow spaces; Use normal CAT5e cable, just strip the plastic off the outside?: http://www.edugeek.net/forums/general-chat/39254-nice-new-computer-suite-part-2-a.html
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