Uraken Posted February 6, 2007 Posted February 6, 2007 hi all recently trialled given our users access to email via exchange server 2003 and owa access, my question is is there a free alternative to owa? or will i still have to pay for an exchange client access licence no matter what client they use? (the exchange server cals are only 1.75 but we have 800 kids so it will soon stack up).
Lee_K_81 Posted February 6, 2007 Posted February 6, 2007 £1.75? Where you getting them from... we paid 1.05 for ours.... I believe that the cals dont just apply to the owa. They are used for mailboxes, so to stay legal you would require a cal for each mailbox that an application would connect to. I'm afraid you will probably have to stump up for the cals. Or try an open source alternative, but then migration might be a pain the a$$.
Uraken Posted February 6, 2007 Author Posted February 6, 2007 ok on hindsight i guess i already know the answer to this, if you connect to exchange you gotta pay
webman Posted February 6, 2007 Posted February 6, 2007 if you connect to exchange you gotta pay #... getting the money is the microsoft way ... #
CyberNerd Posted February 6, 2007 Posted February 6, 2007 Zimbra has a better interface than OWA, it retains most of the functionality of exchange, has some enhanced functionality, can do filtering for spam/swearwords, it is free and has reliable migration wizard from exchange. We have 1650 users on it with no problem. I have used Squirrelmail on Exchange2000 but had problems with speed and exchanges slightly non-standard IMAP that often caused errors. I think horde can also connect to exchange. - you still need exchange licenses to be legal.
Lee_K_81 Posted February 6, 2007 Posted February 6, 2007 ComputaCenter. As part of our MS volume licensing agreement. I believe Ramesys also have a very very good price on them also. Where are you getting your price from?
Lee_K_81 Posted February 6, 2007 Posted February 6, 2007 ComputaCenter. As part of our MS volume licensing agreement. I believe Ramesys also have a very very good price on them also. Where are you getting your price from? edit: i believe ramesys HAD a very very good price. Unless its because we're part of WMNet (west midlands). Prices for different LA's might be different.
amacken Posted February 6, 2007 Posted February 6, 2007 ComputaCenter. As part of our MS volume licensing agreement. I believe Ramesys also have a very very good price on them also. Where are you getting your price from? Weird, I was told by Ramesys just the other day that Exchange cal's are free with our MS Schools agreement :?
ConTheITGuy Posted February 7, 2007 Posted February 7, 2007 Weird, I was told by Ramesys just the other day that Exchange cal's are free with our MS Schools agreement :? The Schools Agreement works in a different way to the Select Agreement (which I guess is what the above folks are talking about). Andy
Lee_K_81 Posted February 7, 2007 Posted February 7, 2007 Weird, I was told by Ramesys just the other day that Exchange cal's are free with our MS Schools agreement :? The Schools Agreement works in a different way to the Select Agreement (which I guess is what the above folks are talking about). Andy Acutually on that subject. Does anybody have a difinitive explanation of the differences between: Schools Agreement Select Agreement Volume Licensing Agreement Which works out most cost effective? Or is it a case of individual school needs?
spc-rocket Posted February 7, 2007 Posted February 7, 2007 From what i gather, exchange does not anymore require the CALS for each mail box for per device licensing so you need to buy the same amout of CALs as the number of computers you have. For external users you can buy the external connector license which will allow unlimited amount of people to connect to the server from outside. Sorry don't agree with the license/cal per mailbox, now that's just plain silly and MS now knows this so they dropped this idea. More info here --> http://www.slipstick.com/emo/2003/up031001.htm Looks like you got a choice with exchange 2003 either a user cal, device cal or EC. Ash.
Uraken Posted February 7, 2007 Author Posted February 7, 2007 Thanks mate this is good info the problem that i have is that i want to give external access as well (the external connector is a set fee of around £5k so getting user cals is still loads cheaper for me.
DMcCoy Posted February 7, 2007 Posted February 7, 2007 "External Connector does not cover employees, independent contractors, agents, service providers, or other persons providing services to, or on behalf of, your organization"
DMcCoy Posted February 7, 2007 Posted February 7, 2007 ComputaCenter. As part of our MS volume licensing agreement. I believe Ramesys also have a very very good price on them also. Where are you getting your price from? Weird, I was told by Ramesys just the other day that Exchange cal's are free with our MS Schools agreement :? You get exchange CALs s part of Core Destop, this will only cover your machines on site however. You will need additional Cals for each external user.
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