gwendes Posted February 6, 2007 Posted February 6, 2007 The majority of people here are united in the opinion that Windows is better than MacOS. But then we are employed in IT and, I would hope, have an IQ over the average computer user. With experience, knowledge and intelligence - what do we know?
webman Posted February 6, 2007 Posted February 6, 2007 The A500+ was my first encounter with computers, ahhh the good old days of Jaguar XJ220, quick snack, workbench (it even had TTS!)
Lee_K_81 Posted February 6, 2007 Posted February 6, 2007 The A500+ was my first encounter with computers, ahhh the good old days of Jaguar XJ220, quick snack, workbench (it even had TTS!) I loved the program "say". now there was a great case of doing exactly what it said on the tin.
GrumbleDook Posted February 6, 2007 Posted February 6, 2007 The thing I like about the adverts? It is about having a sense of humour. I know that in a few years (months ... days) time there will be live viruses out there for Mac OS X and not just proof of concept exploits ... I accept this and I know that when people show the advert in years to come it will be ridiculed (the same way people have ridiculed the '1984' advert when it was Apple v IBM) Do I use a Mac ... at work I use Tiger, at home I use Vista (or Tiger Server if I am doing that side of things). Do I get annoyed that people just look at the prettyness of the Mac and forget that I use CLI for a number of things (or did when I was still allowed to play with the network)? Do I get annoyed when people say that you can do everything on a PC (meaning windows usually) that you can do on a Mac (meaning Mac OS X)? Yes ... I know I can do most things on a Windows machine that I do on an OS X machine ... but I generally find that I do most of them on a Mac far better ... it is the way I work. Do I think that the GUI for *nix and the way apps sit on it works for me? Only in some cases ... so I choose one that works best for me ... Aqua. Are the general public going to understand the difference between Windows OS and Mac OS if that was used in the adverts rather than PC and Mac? Possibly ... but when you are surfing on the halo effect from iPods they will use any marketing opportunity they can ... and that is what this is. Is there an element of FUD? You bet there is ... but generally done in such a manner that you cannot take it seriously ... heck ... I don't take any information in adverts seriously when put across as a joke ... Now can we go back to proper arguements ... Vi or emacs!
webman Posted February 6, 2007 Posted February 6, 2007 It's the sheer obnoxiousness of apple with the "Hey I'm apple, I'm better than anything" attitude. Erm.. neither - nano
gwendes Posted February 6, 2007 Posted February 6, 2007 It's the sheer obnoxiousness of apple with the "Hey I'm apple, I'm better than anything" attitude. and the lies... oh the lies... User gets virus then switches to Mac V User finds that he didn't understand how to use a computer in the first place - hence virus. V Mac goes back in box - another notch on Apple's bedpost - another clueless user does not call technical support... what am I complaining about?!? This is perfect. "Sorry sir, I cannot support MacOS" Damn, I work in a school now
GrumbleDook Posted February 6, 2007 Posted February 6, 2007 It's the sheer obnoxiousness of apple with the "Hey I'm apple, I'm better than anything" attitude. Erm.. neither - nano But that attitude fits in perfectly with being a SysAdmin ... we are better than everyone else!!!! Surely the God complex fits in perfectly with the Apple ideal? Ok ... I know it is not for everyone ... but it is for me ... and part of the issue is that people are not used to experiencing things other than the latest falvour of windows ... I know that the various distros are a lot better than they used to be, but there is still a level of elitism about using *nix ... and if people can be torn away from their comfort zones and into using a different OS on different hardware then we shoud be happy ... And don't forget that once Leopard is out and we have Boot Camp built in we can get as many OSes as we feel necessary unto a Mac. I have to admit to being a follower of Apple adverts over the years ... and have been disappointed that so many are not shown in the UK ... I loved the one that showed a possible Pentium worker with his feet on fire after the issue with overheating ... As far as marketing goes that have some fantastic stuff ... And I'll add nano into the list ... Vi v emacs v nano ... surely the argue of the discerning geek.
GrumbleDook Posted February 7, 2007 Posted February 7, 2007 vi real hackers use sed Build sed and/or awk using vi ... you have to use an editor to build anything decent.
openhgs Posted February 7, 2007 Posted February 7, 2007 SNES > Megadrve Dreamcast > PS2 Amiga > Everything Yeah!!!! I had an Amiga 500+ (mustn't forget the +) it was only out for about 6 months before it was usurped by the Amiga 600. It came with captain planet, bart vs space mutants. Real quality games. Dont laugh i mean it. They were great! I love nostalgia! AmigaOS 4.0 has just been released. Like it says on the website "Remember when computing was fun?" - Dust off that old hardware and enjoy. Perhaps it's time to find a bargain on ebay :?: PS vi - I even use it on M$ boxes.
CyberNerd Posted February 9, 2007 Posted February 9, 2007 This sums the whole debate up as far as I'm concerned!! I found another rather good summary from a vista expert.
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