EduTech Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 Afternoon, I need to purchase some SQL CALs (SQL Server 2008 R2) and I am just trying to work out how many I need, I have x2 Terminal Servers for the Remote Users and then I have 15 Users that connect Locally. Can I just buy 1 CAL for each Terminal Server (2) to cover the 50 remote users? or/ do I have to buy another 50 CALs I think it's the later answer, so I would have to buy 50 + 15 User CALs oppose to the nicer cost version of 17 On the Terminal Servers would it just be how many active sessions I would have open if everyone was to be using it = how many CAL's I would need on top of the Local Users. Cheers, James.
BIST Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 Im afraid that every device that accesses directly or indirectly to the server requires a CAL be it user or device. Microsoft do not do concurrent licences im afraid. SQL is a product that can be licensed in server and cal or processor. The reason for this is that SQL is often used to host websites and for that reason you can't determine the number of users accessing the server. In these instances they have to be licensed per processor. You then need a processor licence for each physical processor in the server (not core) Your options would be SQL Server Licence + 65 User CALS or SQL Server 2008 Processor licence (unlimited CALS). Depending on which is the most cost effective solution for you as both would be valid. I hope this answers your question Shaun Dibble VMware VSP & Microsoft MCP for Licensing,
EduTech Posted October 13, 2010 Author Posted October 13, 2010 (edited) Hi Shaun, Thanks for confirming that, I thought It was the case but just wanted to make sure before I went ahead. what i will probably do then is work out how many sessions could be launched at each remote site at any one time and that would tell me how many CAL's I would need. To be honest I'm probably just going to get a Processor Licence! lol what is it about 5k Awesome! Thanks, James. Edited October 13, 2010 by EduTech
BIST Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 SQL Std 2008 1 processor for a commerical customer is about that but for education is alot cheaper. I would definately recommend processor licence to your scenario as it simplifies your licensing. As long as the SQL server is a single processor server then you just need the 1 single processor licence Shaun Dibble VSP MCP
EduTech Posted October 13, 2010 Author Posted October 13, 2010 SQL Std 2008 1 processor for a commerical customer is about that but for education is alot cheaper. I would definately recommend processor licence to your scenario as it simplifies your licensing. As long as the SQL server is a single processor server then you just need the 1 single processor licence Shaun Dibble VSP MCP Yeah thought it was, the processor I've asked for is: 1x Intel Xeon Quad Core Processor Not 2! so just need to one as you say it's not core's it's physical processors. Thanks for confirming that for me though Shaun, really appreciate it James.
EduTech Posted October 13, 2010 Author Posted October 13, 2010 On another note, thinking ahead! I know we can't speak for the future, but it might already exist now. Is there an upgrade path for SQL Server? so like if say SQL 2010 was released and needed to upgrade to that at a later date rather than buy it all again for say 6k is there an upgrade path which would potentially be cheaper? James.
BIST Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 Microsoft don't do upgrades licences themselves for anything but windows, but they do do something called Software Assurance which has many benefits, one of which is being allowed to upgrade to the latest version at no extra cost. this is part and parcel or optional depending on the licensing scheme you are on Shaun
EduTech Posted October 13, 2010 Author Posted October 13, 2010 Cheers for clarifying that also! very much appreciated. James.
SteveJ Posted October 14, 2010 Posted October 14, 2010 (edited) Shaun's already answered your question, but to give you an idea of pricing (assuming it's for a school), SQL costs about £920 + VAT Per Processor or £115 per server and £22 per CAL under SELECT licensing. Edited October 15, 2010 by SteveJ Removed incorrect information
BIST Posted October 14, 2010 Posted October 14, 2010 (edited) that pricin seems a bit out if im honest, the select is there or there abouts but the school agreeement pricing isnt quite right on school agreement the pricing should be around SQL Std server @ £45 ish SQL CAL @ £3 ish SQL Std 1 proc @ £315 ish School agreements also inc Software Assurance as part of the agreement which includes alot of benefits. I personally always recommend to speak to a qualified Microsoft specialist as every customers scenario is different and a lot is down to the customers specific refresh rate on that product. I have customers who always buy SA because they refresh oftern, I have customers that still run office 97 so would be a waste of money. I hope that helps and sorry for putting prices up I just Shaun Dibble Edited October 14, 2010 by BIST
SteveJ Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 Yep, sorry that's right. Bit of brain fade for me I think! Not sure what i was looking at
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