Pokens!!!! What do you think

[sidewinder]

Looking at the website it does appear to be geared towards businesses/professionals (despite the designs of the 'pokens') rather than kids. If it was aimed at kids I could understand the concern but as it is it is just one of a million things that arnt really suitable in a school. They probably wont catch on anyway

[elsiegee40]

In my view the process should be as follows:

 

Pokens touch and exchange tags

Pokens are connected to the internet by their respective users.

At this point, the user should be asked, for each individual contact, whether they give permission for the other person to receive their contact details.

If this is refused, the contact is dropped, otherwise the information can be exchanged.

 

This means that when Teacher A connects his Poken to the internet and sees that Student B wants his information the teacher can deny that information being passed on.

 

Similarly, Student B can deny his information going to School Bully D.

 

What I object to is that once these devices have made contact the exchange of information is the default... there is nno going back.

[elsiegee40]

This is my response to them:

I'm sorry I have to disagree.

 

Just because something is designed for business does not mean young people will not use them. Their "fun" and "exciting" branding guarantees appeal. I can pretty well guarantee they will become a problem of some sort in schools.

 

"One could argue that leaving your always-password-protected poken lying around would be far less damaging than a stray mobile phone full of sensitive data" No - once contact has been made between the two pokens, as I understand it, the two users information is then exchanged and by going on the internet the users have access to the other person's data.

 

You are assuming that the device will always be used in "friendly" situations... ... it is too easy for the devices to be used without one party's consent. Once that private information is exchanged there is no way out and no way of saying "no, actually I don't want that person to have my details"

 

Meeting face-to-face does not make this Child Protection friendly. Child abusers groom by winning a youg person's trust and by finding a way of making themselves a constant in every aspect of the young person's lives.

 

In my view the process should be as follows:

 

Pokens touch and exchange tags

Pokens are connected to the internet by their respective users.

At this point, the user should be asked, for each individual contact, whether they give permission for the other person to receive their contact details.

If this is refused, the contact is dropped, otherwise the information can be exchanged.

 

This means that when Teacher A connects his Poken to the internet and sees that Student B wants his information and the teacher can deny that information being passed on.

 

Similarly, Student B can deny his information going to School Bully D.

 

What I object to is that once these devices have made contact the exchange of information is the default... there is no going back before the exchange of details.

[gizmo2005]

will you let us know what the response is on this please

[gizmo2005]

thread revive

[Domino]

Look absolutely useless to me, everyone in the business world has a smartphone.

 

the majority are blackberry's and iPhones - Blackberrys have their PIN system, iPhones can use things like bump.

 

And, say for instance I meet person A, we touch pokens (hehehe) and walk off. 5 minutes later I realise I should have asked him this or that I then have to go find a computer before I can get his number and call him? WTH?

 

And, as previously mentioned, fairly useless until they become ubiquitous.

[pete]

I can't see the advantage atm when most smartphones can send the data across in a common format to any other smartphone.

 

Re safeguarding: This kind of thing would be used at conferences / events where you might (if you're running a stand) get hundreds or thousands of contacts. You want easy import of potential sales leads, not a lot of faffing about. Why should a business cripple the utility of a product (and subsequent sales) because kids might use them?