live@edu

[jamesbmarshall]

As live@edu is becoming Office 365 for education will it be possible to use this in the future:

 

Office 365 DirSync (x64) Installation Walkthrough « Mike Crowley's Whiteboard

 

Yes - DirSync is supported in Office 365. Existing Live@edu customers will be able to use it once they've transitioned to Office 365 for education.

[drewp]

MigrationWiz only does mailbox migration but they will give you the DirSync when you purchase the MigrationWiz licences, won’t sync AD passwords.

 

I have been looking at the IMAP migration option in the live@edu control panel, I think it will achieve the same goal, but have not tested it out yet.

[jamesbmarshall]

I have been looking at the IMAP migration option in the live@edu control panel, I think it will achieve the same goal, but have not tested it out yet.

 

The IMAP tool will only allow you to migrate mail items - nothing else. You can achieve password syncing in Live@edu using PCNS with FIM 2010. Password syncing isn't part of Office 365 though - in order to get a single identity (and single sign-on), you'll need to look at federation using something like AD FS or Shibboleth.

[gshaw]

Hi James,

 

Was going to set this up as a separate thread but seeing as you've posted recently might as well add here... will we ever see a Recycle Bin function in SkyDrive?

 

We've experienced a few students accidentally deleting items and it seems a big feature that needs addressing (seems odd to have version control yet no accidental deletion recovery?) Even if the recycle bin was only for 30 days (or even 7 days) it'd be better than the current point of no return (lack of drag and drop to move files about doesn't help imo)

 

What with Windows 8 making it a core feature surely this will only get worse over time unless there's some way back from the big red button?

 

Also what's the deal with SkyDrive on Office 365? Originally I believed Sharepoint would replace it but I read somewhere SkyDrive is an optional component you can use with 365... if so how does this work with ADFS?

Edited March 7, 2012 by gshaw

[jamesbmarshall]

Hi James,

 

Was going to set this up as a separate thread but seeing as you've posted recently might as well add here... will we ever see a Recycle Bin function in SkyDrive?

 

We've experienced a few students accidentally deleting items and it seems a big feature that needs addressing (seems odd to have version control yet no accidental deletion recovery?) Even if the recycle bin was only for 30 days (or even 7 days) it'd be better than the current point of no return (lack of drag and drop to move files about doesn't help imo)

 

What with Windows 8 making it a core feature surely this will only get worse over time unless there's some way back from the big red button?

 

All good points - but with respect to the roadmap for SkyDrive and Windows 8 I know you'll understand when I say that I can't comment at the moment.

 

Also what's the deal with SkyDrive on Office 365? Originally I believed Sharepoint would replace it but I read somewhere SkyDrive is an optional component you can use with 365... if so how does this work with ADFS?

 

SharePoint Online is replacing the SkyDrive functionality of Live@edu in Office 365 for education - while SkyDrive doesn't go away as a service (it's a free consumer service, after all), it isn't part of Office 365.

[drewp]

SharePoint Online is replacing the SkyDrive functionality of Live@edu in Office 365 for education - while SkyDrive doesn't go away as a service (it's a free consumer service, after all), it isn't part of Office 365.

 

Hi James,

 

Does that mean that SharePoint Online will be provided to all the users in Office 365 for education with no licencing costs?

[RabbieBurns]

Ive discovered a problem with my live@edu / ILM implementation and Im not entirely sure how to fix it.

 

Checking the logs of recent syncs, there is about 10 staff accounts who are not being created properly. We use OnPremise Exchange for the staff, and only use ILM to create them as MailUser with their OnPremise email address as their Live ID, we dont create them a MailBox.

 

The error in the logs is this:

 

Microsoft.MetadirectoryServices.ExtensibleExtensionException: Windows Live ID "[email protected]" already exists as an EASI ID. To import the Windows Live ID, use the ImportLiveID parameter. To evict the Windows Live ID, use the EvictLiveID parameter.
  at Microsoft.Exchange.XmaConnector.XmaExceptionManager.ReportErrorToILM(String errorMessage, ILMExceptionType errorType, XmaErrorCategory errorCategory)
  at Microsoft.Exchange.XmaConnector.MAExtension.IlmMAExtension.ExportEntry(ModificationType modificationType, String[] changedAttributes, CSEntry csentry)

 

Out of about 600 staff which have been created as MailUser, there is about 10 that have this error.

 

Im hoping someone like @jamesbmarshall might please be able to help

[jamesbmarshall]

Looks like those 10 accounts have already associated their email address with a Windows Live ID using EASI ID (not unusual, you can associate any email address with a WLID). You'll need to import them.

 

Import or Evict Existing Windows Live IDs in Live@edu

[RabbieBurns]

Thanks. I did come accross that page but it talks about New-MailBox and these are just to be MailUser I wasnt sure if it would be the same.

 

So would I run something like:

 

new-mailuser -Name $this_name -WindowsLiveID $this_liveID -ExternalEmailAddress $this_externalEmailAddress -Password $this_password -FirstName $this_firstname -LastName $this_lastname  -DisplayName $this_displayname -ImportLiveId

 

Incidentally, Ive found that when I create MailUser manually, that PasswordSync doesnt seem to work for these ones?

[ful56_uk]

hello

 

silly question, is it possible just to use the sky drive and the remote apps side of thing with Live@edu? we have our own exchange for all students and staff but like the sound of the skydrive and remote apps.

[zag]

hello

 

silly question, is it possible just to use the sky drive and the remote apps side of thing with Live@edu? we have our own exchange for all students and staff but like the sound of the skydrive and remote apps.

 

Yes. Skydrive works great and the office apps are going to become available for free this Summer.

[ful56_uk]

oh cool, is it possible to use sso with just those?

[zag]

oh cool, is it possible to use sso with just those?

 

Yes. But personally I wouldn't bother with all the SSO stuff. We found that people quickly got used to entering their live id's from home or inside the network.

 

Windows 8 will also include a log on with your windows id soon so there is the potential of having just one cloud login for everything.

Edited April 27, 2012 by zag

[RabbieBurns]

Yes. Skydrive works great and the office apps are going to become available for free this Summer.

 

we have been using the online office apps for at least 18 months ?

[Mr.Ben]

Incidentally, Ive found that when I create MailUser manually, that PasswordSync doesnt seem to work for these ones?

 

Has FIM linked the two accounts?

[zag]

Yeh, I use it as well but I think the old licensing you had to pay to let staff use it?

 

Also sharepoint is going free for education as well soon which will be nice.

[SYNACK]

Also sharepoint is going free for education as well soon which will be nice.

 

Is that posted somewhere?

[plexer]

@SYNACK Live@edu

 

Ben

[RabbieBurns]

Mr.Ben I set mine up in the days before FIM, I use ILM 2007, but Im not sure how i would get them to link ?

[RabbieBurns]

Thanks. I did come accross that page but it talks about New-MailBox and these are just to be MailUser I wasnt sure if it would be the same.

 

So would I run something like:

 

new-mailuser -Name $this_name -WindowsLiveID $this_liveID -ExternalEmailAddress $this_externalEmailAddress -Password $this_password -FirstName $this_firstname -LastName $this_lastname  -DisplayName $this_displayname -ImportLiveId

 

 

Incidentally, Ive found that when I create MailUser manually, that PasswordSync doesnt seem to work for these ones?

 

Im trying to run this @jamesbmarshall but getting an error:

 

Parameter set cannot be resolved using the specified named parameters.
   + CategoryInfo          : InvalidArgument: ( [New-MailUser], ParameterBindingException
   + FullyQualifiedErrorId : AmbiguousParameterSet,New-MailUser

 

If i run it without the -ImportLiveID i get the same aforementioned error about already exisiting as EASI ID. Any suggestions?

Edited April 30, 2012 by RabbieBurns

[RabbieBurns]

Just to update this in case anyone was following my latest issue. I had to use the Microsoft support to resolve this issue as I was unable to import the liveID's manually. They added them to our system, but they appeared as a MailBox, so i was able to run the Remove-Mailbox cmdlet to purge the liveID from the system. And then when I next ran ILM with the -FirstRun option it provisioned the missing accounts as a mail user as normal. (exept one, which required more intervention from support but Im not sure what he did to fix that one)

 

Cudos to the Micoroft Live@Edu support tho, it has improved 500% since I first started using it and the support folk didnt even know what ILM was. Ive now had 2 support cases resolved in a matter of days from opening the ticket (including time zone differences).

 

Looking forward to Office 365

[plexer]

I had an issue with live id's allready existing and I had to log in to each one manually to then remove and associate them with another one.

 

Live@edu support couldn't do anything their end apparently.

 

Ben

[mwroe]

Hi

 

Trying to sort out issues with our ILM Live@EDU setup getting error Your mailbox is unavailable when trying to access accounts via Live@EDU Administration Console.

 

This has only happened recently as all accounts created previously worked correctly without issues.

 

Hoping you could shed some light on this issue.

 

Regards,

 

Matt

[RabbieBurns]

So when you login to eduadmin.live.com and click on users and groups it doesnt take you into the admin console?

 

Or is it only when you are trying to access the actual mailbox of the admin account?

[mwroe]

The issue is in relation to newly created users which have been created via the Powershell startsync.ps1 script in the ILM server and when I try to access these users via the Open other mailbox feature Your mailbox appears to be unavailable. Try to access it again in 10 seconds. If you see this error again, contact your helpdesk.