mattx Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Anyone got a link for this with proper footage as youtube has removed it now as the football league is making a fuss....
sidewinder Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Havent got any but still cant believe it Im a Reading fan so not that bothered but it was a ridiculous decision...what that linesman had been smoking I dont know We probably should have let them have a goal to make up for his stupidity but then again its not up to the players to make sure decisions are correct
RabbieBurns Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article1715951.ece edit: they seem to have taken it down since this morning
Hightower Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Simple Google search reveals this - The Ghost Goal Watford Linesman Referee - Video
mattx Posted September 22, 2008 Author Posted September 22, 2008 Thanks - and I have to say - what a cockup.
rhyds Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Rugby has used video playback for assist referees for years, why hasn't football gone the same way?
Hightower Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Rugby has used video playback for assist referees for years, why hasn't football gone the same way? Because it would kill the sport, having to stop it every 30 seconds to get a replay. Football is a quick paced game and it should stay that way. After all, these referee's are the professionals and should be competent at doing their job.
torledo Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Rugby has used video playback for assist referees for years, why hasn't football gone the same way? you wouldn't need video playback for a ball that actually hit the crossbar flush and and rebounded right back into the penalty area Unbelivably bad decision.....can only assume the linesman was daydreaming. The reaction [or lack of] the reading players should have given him a clue.
Little-Miss Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Wonder if the ref and linesman still has a job?...
wizzard Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 I am sure that the ref and linesman won't be officiating any more matches for a while.
Hightower Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Nah, we'll probably get the buggers demoted to our Sunday Football League! As for the reaction, the goalkeeper even put the ball down ready to take a goal kick!
sidewinder Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 you wouldn't need video playback for a ball that actually hit the crossbar flush and and rebounded right back into the penalty area That wasnt even what was given as the goal! It was before that where Noel Hunt hooked it back into the box. It barely even crossed the touchline, and it was about 2 yards from the post! About video replays - they really should be in place for goalline decisions. Nothing else really. Or even just the sensor that detects if the ball has gone between the posts. That would do! And wouldnt slow the game down.
Hightower Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 About video replays - they really should be in place for goalline decisions. Nothing else really. Or even just the sensor that detects if the ball has gone between the posts. That would do! And wouldnt slow the game down. But why? It's funny how the sport managed to survive the last century without camera's and bad decisions instead. So what if it's the 21st century? Some things are better left untouched and I believe this is one of them.
Guest Guest Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 Some things are better left untouched and I believe this is one of them. I really dont think so. Football is getting less and less entertaining every season. They bring out new rules every other week, why not one that will actually make a differance? And it wouldnt slow the game down at all, you dont have to stop the game while the 4th official watches a replay. Besides generally after every contrversial decision there is atleast a few minutes of players crying/surrounding the ref/throwing their toys out the pram.
JohnMason Posted September 24, 2008 Posted September 24, 2008 Video wouldn't slow the game down. Use it for three things. Penalty or not, red card or not, goal or not. If someone claims a goal, stop the game and check. If not, goal kick. If the other team is countering, the ref can decide if it's a genuine appeal or an attempt to break the flow of the game. If the ref/linesman claims goal, check the video. If it's a goal, carry on. If not, goal kick / corner depending. If a penalty is given, check the replay before taken. If it wasnt a penalty, award either a corner (if the ball was won) or a goal kick (if it was just a dive / collision) With red cards, have the 4th official watching the video. If he sees an incident, he can buzz the ref who can come and see. If the ref blows for a foul, he can check the video before the free kick is taken. It'd add seconds to any decision. Football's already semi-slow restarting when the ball isn't in play. It's amazing when you check the "ball in play" stats for games. Usually around 60-70 minutes i believe? It's only if it broke up play and was used for every little incident it'd get in the way.
Hightower Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 I completely disagree. The game is spoilt because of the players. No other reason. Your talking about bringing a technology in to solve a problem that hardly exists. It isn't very often that the referee's/linesmen get the decision completely wrong. I say let them do their job the way it has been done for over a century. I play Sunday football and the ref does get it wrong at times, especially for offsides as there are no linesmen. We just get on with the game. We don't give the ref stick and throw our dummies out the pram. Maybe it's time to blame the players rather than the referee's.
sidewinder Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 But why? It's funny how the sport managed to survive the last century without camera's and bad decisions instead. So what if it's the 21st century? Some things are better left untouched and I believe this is one of them. Well of course its survived but its only recently that fans (and managers) have had access to multi angle and slow motion replays. Years ago, a bad decision could be suspected but not proven so everyone just got on with it. But if you're going to use technology for the viewers, and you know mistakes are going to be analysed, then introduce at least some technology for the officials - like there is in almost EVERY other sport And like it or not, the game at the highest level is worth big money, a bad mistake can cost a team millions through no fault of their own. I wouldnt want technology replacing much, and mistakes are part of the game, but decisions like Saturdays are just ridiculous (and also ones like Roy Carroll dropping Pedro Mendes's shot 2 yards over the line) and could be easily rectified
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