FN-GM Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 Hi there I think Mac is a good OS and everything seems to be good about it but one thing. When I want to install something or run a Virtual Machine or other tasks I keep being asked for my password. How can I turn this off please? Many Thanks Z
Midget Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 log in as root thats a joke btw, its a security feature, same as in *nix
powdarrmonkey Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 It's based on a unix kernel, so you have to escalate yourself if you want to do anything major. It does actually ask you for some ID though, unlike Vista's UAC. The only way around it is to run as root, which is a Bad Thing and I suspect OSx won't let you anyway.
GrumbleDook Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 Hi there I think Mac is a good OS and everything seems to be good about it but one thing. When I want to install something or run a Virtual Machine or other tasks I keep being asked for my password. How can I turn this off please? Many Thanks Z I'll tell you .. but only once you have sent me your credit card, the pin, your passport and all your bank details. Don't you just love sensible security?!?
Hightower Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 I'm now running Ubuntu at home (fully!) and I've got to say it's taking some getting used to. One thing that really annoys me though is the "Please enter your password" every 2 minutes. Still, gotta hold my hands up and say it makes sense.
kesomir Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 I'm now running Ubuntu at home (fully!) and I've got to say it's taking some getting used to. One thing that really annoys me though is the "Please enter your password" every 2 minutes. Still, gotta hold my hands up and say it makes sense. 95% of what you do normally as a user doesn't require administrator/root priv escalation, it's only when you are performing something major. (Unlike vista which requires it to run a lot of programs at the moment until things get settled)
Rozzer Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 I believe it does this because if you have reset your password recently it does not update your password for key chain. So if you were to put a old password in it would go. I put a script together which deletes the keychain file and then remakes it when they use safari. Its a real pain and if anyone has any other suggestions i would be greatful Ross
Midget Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 does osx have a sudoers file you can chuck yourself into to avoid the request for password?
kingswood Posted August 18, 2008 Posted August 18, 2008 does osx have a sudoers file you can chuck yourself into to avoid the request for password? /Private/etc/sudoers Enjoy!
Hightower Posted August 18, 2008 Posted August 18, 2008 does osx have a sudoers file you can chuck yourself into to avoid the request for password? What about Ubuntu? Can I throw my user account into a file so I can run stuff as sudo?
CyberNerd Posted August 18, 2008 Posted August 18, 2008 What about Ubuntu? Can I throw my user account into a file so I can run stuff as sudo? /etc/sudoers 1
petroz Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 You could just enable root if your on leopard. I.E. dsenableroot Have Fun!!
kingswood Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 You could just enable root if your on leopard. I.E. dsenableroot Have Fun!! Bad advice!
DMcCoy Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 Although root is enabled on os x server by default
kingswood Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 Although root is enabled on os x server by default Very true Although I believe the main reason for this was the OD Master/Replica model? Still- it is a bit strange Of course it's probably best to change the root password as soon as the server is installed and configured..just to be safe(er). Enabling and using the "root" user in Mac OS X Paul
DMcCoy Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 Very true Although I believe the main reason for this was the OD Master/Replica model? Still- it is a bit strange Of course it's probably best to change the root password as soon as the server is installed and configured..just to be safe(er). Enabling and using the "root" user in Mac OS X Paul It gets set the same as the admin user password during setup, so it's not too bad. Very useful it is too
petroz Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 The advice is only bad if you appreciate the basic security features built into OS X and or *nix. The original question shows that security is not a concern, in fact its a burden. So enabling root will dissolve the need to use gksudo or sudo. I dont recommend using dsenableroot, but if your looking to launch all your apps without being prompted for a password, dsenableroot is the quickest way to have full root access to your entire OS.
kingswood Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 The advice is only bad if you appreciate the basic security features built into OS X and or *nix. The original question shows that security is not a concern, in fact its a burden. So enabling root will dissolve the need to use gksudo or sudo. I dont recommend using dsenableroot, but if your looking to launch all your apps without being prompted for a password, dsenableroot is the quickest way to have full root access to your entire OS. I don't believe the OP mentioned anything about security not being a concern. They simply stated that the prompts were an annoyance they could do without. There's a world of difference.
GrumbleDook Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 Actually ... I get annoyed that the Taxman takes a chunk of my wages? Can I turn him off too? Reduced security has a raft of implications. If it is an annoyance I hate to think what would happen if it isn't there ... anything could get through ... including some nice little automator tasks that someone could send out ... FN-GM ... I have a file I think want to open ...
petroz Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 I don't believe the OP mentioned anything about security not being a concern. They simply stated that the prompts were an annoyance they could do without. There's a world of difference. There's also a world of difference between what you interpreted from my last post and what I actually wrote...... I clearly said "The original question shows" not "mentioned." In simple terms, the OP does not like having to enter his pw when launching apps, dsenableroot is one approach of many to solve this. So take it as a approach, not a suggestion.
kingswood Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 Actually ... I get annoyed that the Taxman takes a chunk of my wages? Can I turn him off too? Reduced security has a raft of implications. If it is an annoyance I hate to think what would happen if it isn't there ... anything could get through ... including some nice little automator tasks that someone could send out ... FN-GM ... I have a file I think want to open ... Well said. Running with least privilege and having the odd prompt or two (or three perhaps) is much better than running all with full access. I wouldn't run Vista this way and certainly won't run OS X this way either. It *is* an approach but a very bad idea all the same. I'll take the nagging. I'm used to it anyway
FN-GM Posted August 30, 2008 Author Posted August 30, 2008 You don’t get this in XP so why isn’t there all sorts of dodgy things happening like you say would happen if it wasn't there?
GrumbleDook Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 You mean why isn't XP vulnerable to malware, spyware and viruses when people open a file that hasn't been scanned or they think is ok because it came from a trusted person or trusted site so they even tell their AV software that it is ok? That's why MS went over the top with Vista's friendly "Are you sure you want to move your mouse?" attitude. Getting some sort of balance is important but running a system as root is not something people do for extremely good reasons and has quite a bit of precedent.
MkII Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 And the sooner MS adopt a grown up root privilege system the better. And how much better for sysadmins fed up of fighting the plague that is the 'designed to run as admin' trash software we have to try and deal with. (I'm looking at YOU Capita !!)
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