Bluetooth Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 Morning all. Right, im finally looking to make a foray back into the world of console gaming cause my mates are looking to play them as well. Now then, as you can see im interested in an xbox 360, but i have a few queries. Whats the difference between the 360 and the 360 elite? The HDMI cables, does sound go through this cable so theres no need for any other cables etc? ie straight into the TV. I borrowed a friends xbox360 and he gave me a connector that hooked up to the PC RGB port on my tv but the sound wouldnt work, hence my worries about the HDMI slot not working. dont want to invest in a xbox if i have to use normal scart just to hear the game. i will no doubt have more questions but these will do for now
somabc Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 (edited) OK I will try to sum up the differences 1. Elite is £60 more expensive than Pro/Premium 2. Elite is Black, standard is White 3. Elite has 120GB HD, Pro has 20GB (or none - Arcade) er thats all I can think of. HDMI supports audio as well in the same cable. Microsoft are expected to make price cuts in the middle of July, (after E3). Gameplay do have some good deals on just now though http://shop.gameplay.co.uk/webstore/productpage.asp?productcode=KT4549&title=xbox_360_elite_pack_with_gta_iv_and_call_of_duty_4 Discount: £5 Minimum Spend: £35.00 Promotional Code: gugheq6xe Expiry: 30/06/2008 Edited July 1, 2008 by somabc
ZeroHour Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 Stereo at least should go down the HDMI. VGA obviously does not carry sound but normally your tv would have inputs for vga sound. Non elites do have HDMI now although I believe as well. I would wait a little as a price drop for the elite just hit USA and we may get one here. If/When you get a 360 though remember to join the xbox 360 users group
Bluetooth Posted July 1, 2008 Author Posted July 1, 2008 not a question of if matey You've allayed many fears there, the cable my friend supplied had seperate inputs for sound etc which i did plug into the TV but it wouldnt work no matter what i did. Now then, the HD cable, my tv i think is only half hd (750), its only a lil 19" swisstec tv im using for my monitor also. Will this make an difference in buying a normal one compared to the elite?
somabc Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 not a question of if matey You've allayed many fears there, the cable my friend supplied had seperate inputs for sound etc which i did plug into the TV but it wouldnt work no matter what i did. Now then, the HD cable, my tv i think is only half hd (750), its only a lil 19" swisstec tv im using for my monitor also. Will this make an difference in buying a normal one compared to the elite? You can plug an Xbox 360 into any TV or Monitor, as long as it has the right inputs, HDMI, VGA whatever. Obviously you are not really going to get the full effect with a non HD 19" TV but you can certainly use it until you get something better.
Bluetooth Posted July 1, 2008 Author Posted July 1, 2008 the tv i have IS HD, but its only half HD, it has a HDMI input. what im asking is, do both the xbox 360 normal and xbox 360 elite work at both HD levels? (750p and 1080p)?
Michael Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 Well if you bought a PS3, they all come with HDMI ports and I also believe pretty much all XBOX's now have HDMI too. It's without a doubt better quality so is well worth using. There are different resolutions of HD, with the minimum being 720, but I know all PS3 games support this HD resolution or greater. I suspect this is also applicable to XBOX so I would definitely use HDMI where you can. Scart is quickly being phased out now. You should also note that on PS3, there are games that will only work over HDMI. I don't know if this is the case with the XBOX however?
Quackers Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 I bought both, i did have the white one in the frontroom, but did not like all my electrical equipment being black/silver and that being white, so bought the black one for frontroom and put white one in bedroom. The black one seems to run quieter, looks nicer, and the bigger hard disk , thats about it. Get the black one
ZeroHour Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 You've allayed many fears there, the cable my friend supplied had seperate inputs for sound etc which i did plug into the TV but it wouldnt work no matter what i did. Hmm it *should* work, possibly the wrong audio input selected? I would double check that HDMI does carry it but I am sure it does. You also need to check what version of hdmi your tv has. Older versions dont support audio down the wire. All 360 games work with scart btw.
Bluetooth Posted July 1, 2008 Author Posted July 1, 2008 the cable i mentioned in that post wasnt a HDMI cable it was a VGA cable with 2x phono inputs for sound. Im thinking the xbox hdmi cable will work fine cause the TV is only 7 months old.
ZeroHour Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 Im thinking the xbox hdmi cable will work fine cause the TV is only 7 months old. You really need to check though for the HDMI version supported on the TV. This is a important factor as older versions dont carry audio. Quackers: All the 360's now should use the silent drives
Bluetooth Posted July 1, 2008 Author Posted July 1, 2008 You really need to check though for the HDMI version supported on the TV. This is a important factor as older versions dont carry audio. How does one check this?
Michael Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 Your TV manual will tell you what version of HDMI you have, BUT in saying that, I thought all revisions of HDMI supported both?
Bluetooth Posted July 1, 2008 Author Posted July 1, 2008 ok, let me rephrase, how does one check this who lost the manual for the TV yonks ago ;P considering the tv is only 7 months old i think this is one helluva achievement ;P
Michael Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 ok, let me rephrase, how does one check this who lost the manual for the TV yonks ago ;P considering the tv is only 7 months old i think this is one helluva achievement ;P Google is your friend
somabc Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 the tv i have IS HD, but its only half HD, it has a HDMI input. what im asking is, do both the xbox 360 normal and xbox 360 elite work at both HD levels? (750p and 1080p)? With all due respect there is no such thing as 'half HD' It is either HD or it is not. HD is defined as 720p (1280×720) or higher. The Xbox 360 can output SD, 720p, 1080i, 1080p The Xbox 360 can also do 640×480, 848×480, 1024×768, 1280×720, 1280×768, 1280×1024, and 1360×768 resolution via VGA as well. You should try and match the output to the native resolution of the display as this will yield the best picture.
SYNACK Posted July 2, 2008 Posted July 2, 2008 With all due respect there is no such thing as 'half HD' It is either HD or it is not. Well, there is no half HD but there are two standards thanks to Sony. There is 'HD' which is 720p and there is 'full HD' which is 1080p. HDMI is another 'standard' that Sony has meddled with and rewritten 4 times already with version 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 1.2a and 1.3. You should be able to get sound through HDMI though as outlined here: LWD - Xbox 360 Elite: HDMI 1.2 vs. 1.3
Bluetooth Posted July 2, 2008 Author Posted July 2, 2008 Thanks all for your input, ive bought an elite last night and got it running at home on the aforementioned television. Now a question i have, with all these hd resolutions flying about, which is the best? I have the xbox running at its max that the tv will let me (1080i) - whats the diff between 1080i and 1080p?
jcollings Posted July 2, 2008 Posted July 2, 2008 Thanks all for your input, ive bought an elite last night and got it running at home on the aforementioned television. Now a question i have, with all these hd resolutions flying about, which is the best? I have the xbox running at its max that the tv will let me (1080i) - whats the diff between 1080i and 1080p? This page answers it HD TV explained - Misco.co.uk Your TV (from what you said earlier) can do 720p or 1080i. Which you use is really a matter of personal preference. I prefer 720p on mine.
Bluetooth Posted July 2, 2008 Author Posted July 2, 2008 Thats done the trick. Will have to try 720 and see what that is like over the 1080i. thank you all for your information Blue is a very happy xbox playing cod4 pwning nub =) See you all online gamertag: G3t DoOwn
StewartKnight Posted July 2, 2008 Posted July 2, 2008 I run my xbox at 720p Progressive is better for games than interlaced! I'll add you to my buddies. I've just got COD4, but I'm pants at it (at the moment!)
Bluetooth Posted July 2, 2008 Author Posted July 2, 2008 Sounds like 720p is the way to be, i shall take a look tonight as me and my buds are COD4'ing it up tonight but ive gotta take a mate someplace beforehand. Should be online around 7ish if not before so if you wanna join in mate, get me on your friends list and ill get my bud to invite you to l'party.
lbradley Posted November 11, 2008 Posted November 11, 2008 ive tried both on a 32inch HD tele and cant tell the difference to be honest, probs cos my tv aint that good, will buy a 50 " one at some point maybe bigger if i can afford it:cool:
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