stu1892 Posted June 26, 2008 Posted June 26, 2008 I'd like to have the users log in with an open profile (it needs to be open for a couple of bits of software to work) but then when they log off, i don't want them to save the changes to the profile. So technically it would be a open profile but they wouldn't be able to save the changes because it's "mandatory". Hope this made sense! Is there anyway i can do this using a GPO or another way? Cheers!
strawberry Posted June 26, 2008 Posted June 26, 2008 could you not set it as teh default user profile and use a script to delete the net profile folder at log off?
elsiegee40 Posted June 26, 2008 Posted June 26, 2008 (edited) You need to make a mndatory profile that is shared by all users: see the WIKI: http://www.edugeek.net/wiki/index.php/Mandatory_Profiles and See this thread: http://www.edugeek.net/forums/windows/18661-creating-small-mandatory-profile.html Edited June 26, 2008 by elsiegee40
stu1892 Posted June 26, 2008 Author Posted June 26, 2008 yeah, i know that. However, what i want to do is have a non-mandatory profile that i can write to during a session and when it logs off it doesn't save what's been changed.
stu1892 Posted June 26, 2008 Author Posted June 26, 2008 could you not set it as teh default user profile and use a script to delete the net profile folder at log off? Cheers, Stawberry. I understand that and it's something to look into. Ideally i was looking for a GPO to say 'disable profile saving settings on log off'.
elsiegee40 Posted June 26, 2008 Posted June 26, 2008 yeah, i know that. However, what i want to do is have a non-mandatory profile that i can write to during a session and when it logs off it doesn't save what's been changed. That's how it works! the profile appears to work like any other profile while the user is logged on. However it is not saved back to the server when the user logs off.
Domino Posted June 26, 2008 Posted June 26, 2008 there is that option, DO not save changes on logoff see here http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.microsoft.com%2Ftechnet%2Fprodtechnol%2Fwindows2000serv%2Freskit%2Fdeploy%2Fdgfd_adm_hwqx.mspx&ei=EYFjSNH5DJzI1gacoqSsDQ&usg=AFQjCNFAhWmW_QsEdyML39I0fFKOvi_xBg&sig2=jGUvWHJWQuhmwLbp_9y9JQ
amcevoy Posted June 26, 2008 Posted June 26, 2008 You can write to a mandatory profile during a session. It just doesn't save when you logoff.
stu1892 Posted June 26, 2008 Author Posted June 26, 2008 cheers domino, i'll check that out. @ amcevoy - there's a licence file off our portal intranet which needs the profile to be open for some reason. Mandatory doesn't suit at all. Drives me mad!
amcevoy Posted June 26, 2008 Posted June 26, 2008 Quirks! Can live with them. Wouldn't have a job without them!
stu1892 Posted June 26, 2008 Author Posted June 26, 2008 Quirks! Can live with them. Wouldn't have a job without them! Very true, but if it doesn't get the licence the site doesn't run properly and i get my hand slapped.
amcevoy Posted June 26, 2008 Posted June 26, 2008 So what is your setup? XP on Active Directory? Profile path put in the users properties?
stu1892 Posted June 26, 2008 Author Posted June 26, 2008 So what is your setup? XP on Active Directory? Profile path put in the users properties? Yeah. User gets a mandatory profile from AD when logging on to XP machines. Other than this bloody portal editor plug in, it's fine. XStandard needs to send and receive a licence apparantly to implement it. For some reason our mandatory profiles stop this, so i created a roaming open profile and it's fine. I tried all sorts, including forcing tempory internet files to save to a share and locally, with no luck.
amcevoy Posted June 26, 2008 Posted June 26, 2008 Can you not use scripts to simulate the send and recieve of the licence file?
stu1892 Posted June 26, 2008 Author Posted June 26, 2008 According to the administrators of the site and Xstandard (both of which couldn't help me find the problem / solution that i found!) the server needs to give or grab this file. Especially infuriating when it's a 1k text file
amcevoy Posted June 26, 2008 Posted June 26, 2008 Have you logged on as a pupil with the ntuser file named as .dat. Then logged off. Then renamed the file ntuser.man?
stu1892 Posted June 26, 2008 Author Posted June 26, 2008 Yep. I think this was one of the final things i done before i realised that it was fine with an open profile. However, if the GPO mentioned above does the trick, i'm happy with it being open and the gpo not saving any changes. Can't believe i've miss the option 'don't save settings' I still haven't had a chance to check just yet.
stu1892 Posted June 26, 2008 Author Posted June 26, 2008 'Do not save settings at exit' is only for desktop features, so i doubt that will work as it still saves new shortcuts if they're created and i guess it will probably save application data etc too. I think i'll look into "Prevent roaming profile changes..." as mentioned, as i looks like it might do a job.
elsiegee40 Posted June 26, 2008 Posted June 26, 2008 I've lost my way with this thread. have you discounted using a single madatory profile? If so, why?
localzuk Posted June 26, 2008 Posted June 26, 2008 cheers domino, i'll check that out. @ amcevoy - there's a licence file off our portal intranet which needs the profile to be open for some reason. Mandatory doesn't suit at all. Drives me mad! That makes no sense. A mandatory profile is no different to a roaming profile when on the client - ie if you created a roaming profile with a .dat file, logged in, then created one with a .man file the 2 would be identical. It only has a difference when saving back to the server.
elsiegee40 Posted June 26, 2008 Posted June 26, 2008 That makes no sense. A mandatory profile is no different to a roaming profile when on the client - ie if you created a roaming profile with a .dat file, logged in, then created one with a .man file the 2 would be identical. It only has a difference when saving back to the server. This perhaps equires the use of the mandatory profile as a roaming profile to acquire the licence file and then switch it to mandatory. As is suggested in the Small Mandatory profiles thread.
stu1892 Posted June 27, 2008 Author Posted June 27, 2008 I have no idea. We use mandatory profiles and i made them by leaving them as .dat, doing what i had to do, including getting this licence working, then made it mandatory. Then every user that uses it should get all the settings including this licence, but they don't. It may even be a local setting. When i was doing a load of testing, the first mandatory user (eg. user.001) to log on to the pc got the licence, then if user.002 logged on with the same mandatory profile, they didn't, user.003 and so on also didn't, but i think user.001 did again. The only way around this has been user.001 .002 etc with a non-mandatory profile. But unfortunately this means recent programs are the same etc and kids may mess about with program settings. We haven't let this loose on the kids yet though
localzuk Posted June 27, 2008 Posted June 27, 2008 What software is it? It seems like their should be a way around the whole licensing problem instead of re-inventing mandatory profiles.
stu1892 Posted June 27, 2008 Author Posted June 27, 2008 It's Xstandard, which is a development tool apparantly. I emailed them and they fobbed me off to the developer who also can't help me . This was Xstandards reply A software developer needs to setup up the license file and configure Pro features because this needs to be done in code. What it does is gives a you an extra tool bar in a text window on a website, just like the one we're typing in here. If it can't get the licence it shows the 'lite' version which doesn't have this extra toolbar. Apparently this is a big thing for my boss.
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