Sheridan Posted June 14, 2021 Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) We've been asked to setup Adobe CC (mainly Premiere/After Effects) for a small group of students - the pricing seems ridiculous to me, for 10 students its £3400 using the per user per year option, or £2800 per device per year. Is there another way to do this or is it just that expensive? Edited June 14, 2021 by Sheridan
LukeRowberry Posted June 14, 2021 Posted June 14, 2021 You'd be better off going to the per user licencing. We pay less than £4 per year per user.
paulkerton Posted June 14, 2021 Posted June 14, 2021 I think it's cheaper for education than that... But we direct people to photopea.com normally for Photoshop alternatives.
Sheridan Posted June 14, 2021 Author Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) Hmm I'm just used Adobes Education pricing and its £29.49 per user for all apps, or £12.64 per app per user (all per month!) and £278 per annum for each device for all apps. Does going through a reseller drop it that much, £4 a year per user seems massively cheaper! Edited June 14, 2021 by Sheridan
psynegy Posted June 14, 2021 Posted June 14, 2021 You'd be better off going to the per user licencing. We pay less than £4 per year per user. Where have you managed to find less than £4? We're just about to renew and have only found £4.08 so far. Thanks
DalekSec Posted June 14, 2021 Posted June 14, 2021 Hmm I'm just used Adobes Education pricing and its £29.49 per user for all apps, or £12.64 per app per user (all per month!) and £278 per annum for each device for all apps. Does going through a reseller drop it that much, £4 a year per user seems massively cheaper! We go via a reseller and also pay roughly £4 a user! We use Academia, never had issues with them 1
Sheridan Posted June 14, 2021 Author Posted June 14, 2021 [ATTACH=CONFIG]62142[/ATTACH]CCS MediaI guess 900 users puts you into the cheaper category, I bet its a lot more for 10-15!
dhicks Posted June 14, 2021 Posted June 14, 2021 We've been asked to setup Adobe CC (mainly Premiere/After Effects) for a small group of students - the pricing seems ridiculous to me, for 10 students its £3400 using the per user per year option, or £2800 per device per year. Is there another way to do this or is it just that expensive? From Adobe's website, I get £16.24 per month (price includes VAT) per student / teacher user (that's for individually purchased licenses), so £1,950 per year for 10 users. However, I think starting at 10 users you can get lower prices through a reseller - I think we got a quote for around £185 per user per year for 10 users, so £1,850. At some minimum number of users (is it 500?) you can get the £4-ish-per-user schools pricing through a reseller - it might well be cheaper to just license the whole school, and I think for named-user licensing the pupils can install Creative Cloud at home, too.
Sheridan Posted June 14, 2021 Author Posted June 14, 2021 Yeah I'm thinking along those lines as well, we may as well license the whole school or at least sixth form and get a better deal
old_n07 Posted June 14, 2021 Posted June 14, 2021 Give Pugh or Academia a call, ask to speak to someone about the Adobe K12 license program, there is a minimum purchase of either 250 or 500 but even at 500 it only comes to just over £2k.
LukeRowberry Posted June 14, 2021 Posted June 14, 2021 I guess 900 users puts you into the cheaper category, I bet its a lot more for 10-15! ah yes sorry we licence the whole of KS3 and then only pupils who need it in KS4 & 5. The licence quote says 100+ so you might get away with 100.
Steve21 Posted June 14, 2021 Posted June 14, 2021 They like to hide it on a different page nowadays, the education page isn't education K12 level: https://www.adobe.com/uk/education/schools.html Scroll to the bottom for: Named User Licence - One School Named User Licence - District or MAT Classroom Licence In your scenario, 25x classroom device would be £530~ as the cheapest option Steve
bigstan48 Posted June 14, 2021 Posted June 14, 2021 If you have an LGFL connection, they provide free licenses as part of their subscription package.
willtech Posted June 14, 2021 Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) If you have an LGFL connection, they provide free licenses as part of their subscription package. Non LGfL Schools can also purchase Adobe Creative Cloud Licences from LGfL. The form is here with the details: https://landing.lgfl.net/adobe-pur_licenced Adobe Licence - No. of chargeable Named User for Adobe Creative Cloud licences required (£4.89 per user per year) Adobe Licence - No. of chargeable Shared Device Licences for Adobe Creative Cloud required (£19.50 per device per year) Edited June 14, 2021 by willtech
Tefters Posted June 14, 2021 Posted June 14, 2021 Simon Keeble at Pugh, he's done my Adobe licensing for 5 years now. I pay £6k per year for 290 device installs. Personally I can't stand Adobe and think it's a ripoff compared to what the school actually use it for but it was pushed through from above and I'll never get them off it now. For sixth form onwards where trained Adobe teachers are teaching it then sure, but the work I see coming out of it in KS3/4 makes me cringe. Its just a name like Apple that comes at a heavy cost.
johnlevis Posted June 15, 2021 Posted June 15, 2021 @Sheridan - to be honest I don't think Adobe get licencing in education. Happy to have a quick chat to go over options John 1
Sheridan Posted June 15, 2021 Author Posted June 15, 2021 Adobe must have learned their licensing strategy from Microsoft lol I'm hoping that DaVinci Resolve might do all they need for free, but licensing more that the 15 or so required seems to make more financial sense
dhicks Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 Is there another way to do this or is it just that expensive? Not exactly Adobe Creative Cloud, but I've just got an email through from Adobe saying that their free Adobe Spark for Education plan will include Adobe Photoshop Express and Adobe Premiere Rush from next month. I think that means you can get Photoshop / Premier (basic versions, but there's a good chance a lot of teachers would be fine with those) free over the whole school and, possibly, for home use as well.
themightymrp Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 I pay just shy of £1,900 per year for 85 shared device licenses (so about £21 per machine). This basically covers 2 full IT suites and a selection of office staff who need the full functionality or things like Acrobat. I'd like to do shared account licensing, but if I covered everyone (about 1,600 people) I'd be looking at £6+ per year which I simply can't afford
slugshead Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 500 named licenses, allows user to be logged into two devices at once, install on personal devices too. Less than 3k. Deployed the creative cloud desktop app through sccm to everything, gave every student a license. Job done Syncs with azure and licenses based on group membership but needed an Azure A1 license, picked that up for ~£500. We heavily push BYOD to our students so named licenses are the way to go for us
KK20 Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 enquire if you are eligible for "K-12 SCHOOL SITE" it is about £23 per year per device for shared device model. Minimum seat of 25. You get the full CC, you will need to set up azure AD sync and login for each user.
RobFuller Posted October 5, 2021 Posted October 5, 2021 Not exactly Adobe Creative Cloud, but I've just got an email through from Adobe saying that their free Adobe Spark for Education plan will include Adobe Photoshop Express and Adobe Premiere Rush from next month. I think that means you can get Photoshop / Premier (basic versions, but there's a good chance a lot of teachers would be fine with those) free over the whole school and, possibly, for home use as well. Not seen anything on this, would be good for the rest of the site as Adobe Rush is a good easy to use video editor for the general student population.
IrritableTech Posted October 5, 2021 Posted October 5, 2021 Not seen anything on this, would be good for the rest of the site as Adobe Rush is a good easy to use video editor for the general student population. We also had the email below on September 23rd. Beginning in late October 2021, the Primary and Secondary Adobe Spark for Education plan will start to include two additional applications, Adobe Photoshop Express and Adobe Premiere Rush. In or shortly after late October 2021, your users will get access to these applications. Your Adobe Spark for Education plan will remain free of charge even with the addition of these applications.Adobe Photoshop Express enables image editing and collage making and is available on both iOS and Android devices. To learn about this application’s capabilities, system requirements and device compatibility, please visit the user guide. Adobe Premiere Rush enables video editing and sharing. It is available on both iOS and Android, as well as desktop devices. To learn about this application’s capabilities, system requirements and device compatibility, please visit the user guide. As always, if you would like to modify your Primary and Secondary Adobe Spark for Education plan, you may do so in the Adobe Admin Console at any time. If you have any questions, please reach out to the Adobe support team, or contact your sales representative or reseller partner. Thank you, Adobe for Education Team 2
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