Warning for Potential Vega Graphics Users NO VGA SUPPORT (despite the socket)

[chazzy2501]

ok, building a new PC for the Hall, needed to be a little peppy thought I'd build a budget Ryzen Build with Vega Graphics. A nice £234 build..

 

 

Anyhow after to Windows 10 installs various drivers and swearing I find out the unbelievable issue with Vega Graphics.... THEY DO NOT SUPPORT VGA!

 

 

The board has a VGA port, it'll work in the BIOS it'll work in Windows UNTIL! you install the graphics driver.... The intentionally disable the ?LLVDA? support bricking the VGA output..

 

 

This is amazing to include a port that your not going to support... No support vs disabling the port.. I don't know but this is important to anyone purchasing new PCs that need VGA support for older displays. I foolishly assumed that as the mobo had a vga port that the graphics would support it...

 

BTW to make this the best ever, no display port on this mobo, so I'll have to get one of those hit and miss hdmi to vga adapters.

[DalekSec]

I've used ryzen vega with VGA monitors before, you sure it's not a dead socket on the motherboard?

 

Also googling it seems to be working fine for others aswell, what version do you have? Motherboard and CPU

[HTCPCP]

This sounds a lot more like a driver issue - have you tried a different version of the driver, as I have built a few 2400g based machines without any issues coming with them. I know for a fact one of them uses VGA as it was installed to run with a legacy monitor that only had VGA (and none of my former colleagues have said anything about it no longer working...)

[MrEprise]

I'd imagine there's a VGA port for the small handful of AM4 Athlon CPUs which will have still have some sort of built-in Radeon graphics which will probably still support VGA in some way or another.

 

I didn't realise until a few months ago that Intel stopped support of the VGA output from Skylake onwards and that's it's up to the motherboard manufacturer to put some sort of bridging IC on the motherboard in order to output via the VGA port if there is one and you want to use it.

[Arthur]

THEY DO NOT SUPPORT VGA!

To be fair, it's not like Intel and AMD didn't give everyone notice. They issued the following joint press release almost 8.5 years ago!

 

https://newsroom.intel.com/news-releases/leading-pc-companies-move-to-all-digital-display-technology-phasing-out-analog

 

SANTA CLARA, Calif., 8 Dec. 2010 – AMD, Dell, Intel Corporation, Lenovo, Samsung Electronics LCD Business and LG Display today announced intentions to accelerate adoption of scalable and lower power digital interfaces such as DisplayPort and High-Definition Multimedia Interface® (HDMI) into the PC.

 

Intel and AMD expect that analog display outputs such as Video Graphics Array (VGA) and the low voltage differential signaling technology (LVDS) panel interface would no longer be supported in their product lines by 2015. HDMI has increasingly been included in new PCs for easy connection to consumer electronics devices. DisplayPort is expected to become the single PC digital display output for embedded flat panels, PC monitors and projectors.

 

It's time to switch to something modern like DisplayPort.

[FN-GM]

It's time to switch to something modern like DisplayPort.

 

Agreed. The last time we used VGA was 2013.

[chazzy2501]

I'm using a B450 board with a Ryzen 2200G (with Vega 8 Graphics) The VGA output works in the BIOS and in Windows BEFORE I install drivers.

 

I've googled this and it seems loads of people have been gotya'd. Annoyingly the ability seems to be there but is disabled (as it works before the driver)

 

a lot of expensive devices still use VGA (hall projectors that are 30ft in the air and have 60ft cable runs that link to 4 points across the hall (as a hypothetical example :@) display walls etc.

 

Another argument might be " The onboard graphics are supposed to be the budget solution, budget people reuse old equipment :("