DavR Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 Get the server to lock all client PCs automatically when the fire alarm goes off, with the message: there's a fire, go outside! You jest, I have been asked if this is something I could set up for lock down procedure - "We are under attack, stay inside!" Technically yes, but practically...... no.
enjay Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 You jest, I have been asked if this is something I could set up for lock down procedure - "We are under attack, stay inside!" Technically yes, but practically...... no. In the gold old days of flat networks, we used Net Send messages for reminders "year 7, your assembly is in the hall" or whatever. Not sure we'd have done it for "the building is on fire, get out" for obvious safety reasons, but we certainly would have done for "we're under attack, lock your door and hide".
mavhc Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 when signal from fire alarm received: Loop every computer in parallel: set lock screen jpeg to c:\lockscreen\omgfire.jpg rundll32.exe user32.dll,LockWorkStation 1
DrCheese Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 haha Have started becoming really strict on this here, I've shoved a note on everyone's desktop wallpaper that Data protection is their responbility & to lock the machines (Along with a nice Windows + L Picture). Still finding locked machines, so set the timeout to 5 minutes. Que complant on our service desk "It's stopping me working" Is it? Unless you're copying stuff off the machine it's not stopping you at all, tho granted it was in an office rather than a classroom so I may tweak it slightly. I did have a member of staff say I should lower it to 2 minutes, as Data protection is more important. I nearly fell off my chair! I have a meeting with the head after the hols to start on our GDPR action plan, so I'll raise it then...
enjay Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 Still finding locked machines, so set the timeout to 5 minutes. Que complant on our service desk "It's stopping me working" Is it? Unless you're copying stuff off the machine it's not stopping you at all, tho granted it was in an office rather than a classroom so I may tweak it slightly. Ours is set to 5 minutes in offices and 15 minutes in classrooms as teachers often leave things on-screen for the class to refer to - I know they could use "Freeze", but they don't seem to. I do notice if people are at their desks but not using their computers, they tend to press a key to wake the screen as soon as it goes off anyway - no idea why! Even my technician does it, and he's a massive power-saving ambassador.
elsiegee40 Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) This topic has cropped up before A Salutary Tale - EduGeek.net Article regarding computers being left unlocked - historical - EduGeek.net Edited October 25, 2017 by elsiegee40
Hunter Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 Ours is set to auto lock after 5 Minutes, staff leaving machines unlocked is a pain for us especially when students are using the rooms. We do have 'Staff Quiet' work room where staff leave themselves logged into computers all the time. We have disabled multi users to try and get them to log themselves out, it is an up-hill battle.
enjay Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 We have disabled multi users to try and get them to log themselves out, it is an up-hill battle. In my experience, that just forces people to dump the power on a PC. Better to leave multi-user enabled rather than risk damage to the PC, IMO.
Rob_D Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 We've got ours set to 10min across the site. We tried milti users, but the PCs started to grind after 3 or 4 accounts were logged on and running a dozen or so programs, so we disabled it and installed Administrative Unlock instead. So far no complaints (at least none that have reached me).
enjay Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 We tried milti users, but the PCs started to grind after 3 or 4 accounts were logged on and running a dozen or so programs, so we disabled it and installed Administrative Unlock instead. So far no complaints (at least none that have reached me). Our PCs restart automatically a few times a week, which helps reduce that and gets the Windows Updates done at a convenient time.
TechMonkey Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 I must say the fire drill part may be a little bit picky, if a teacher is stood away from their PC, at the board say, teaching, their priority when that alarm sounds is ensuring the pupils and themselves leave the building as quickly and safely as possible, if a PC is unlocked, so be it, there may be sensitive info but also lives at risk. Even if it's a drill, it has to be treated as real life, hence why we are told to leave any objects and get out as safely and quickly as we can. It's tricky, a tough line to decide, but they also have a duty to protect sensitive information. If I wanted to get at a data then one of the things I would consider is setting off the fire alarm and then finding an abandoned computer. You would probably have a good while to do what you need with no one likely to disturb you. It also goes towards the overall view of data security. Does the school value data security to an extent that it is impressed on the staff that computers should be locked at ALL times they are not at the screen? Would the ICO agree that data stolen during a fire evacuation was extenuating circumstances so not fine or publish the school's name?
mavhc Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 Well, 3 people burned to death, but at least no one has the dates of birth of some kids who you could work out their birthday due to them wearing an I am 8 badge to school one day. Or the addresses you could work out by buying the census data
enjay Posted November 9, 2017 Posted November 9, 2017 It's tricky, a tough line to decide, but they also have a duty to protect sensitive information. If I wanted to get at a data then one of the things I would consider is setting off the fire alarm and then finding an abandoned computer. You would probably have a good while to do what you need with no one likely to disturb you. This is why the teachers here lock the classroom doors when they leave during the evacuation. Sadly, I've had seen people set fire alarms off then go through bags.
PotNoodleTech Posted November 10, 2017 Posted November 10, 2017 Just had the official go ahead to enable auto locking after 15 minutes. I suggested 5, but hey with compromise cometh progress!
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