MYK-IT Posted February 3, 2017 Posted February 3, 2017 I',m watching this thread as I need to start building a nice new spangly W10 image and I aint built an image since I did my windows 7 one in 2012! #rusty I'll be watching this too (along with umpteen other W10 threads on here!) for as, and when we are ready to deploy Windows 10 etc. Although, we are fully licenced to use System Centre etc, our current Windows 7 deployment method is using WDS/MDT/ Lite Touch Deployment. All setup, and configured using the books available from Deployment Fundamentals > Home using Deployment Fundamentals - Volume 4 Deploying Windows 8 and Office 2013 Using MDT 2012 Update 1 To be honest, at the moment I will probably do something similar for Windows 10 following Deployment Fundamentals, Vol. 6 Deploying Windows 10 Using Microsoft Deployment Toolkit Although, there are various System Centre 2012 books available are there too. It is more of the customisation of the image and local (default) profile by the fine tuning (shortcuts, reg-tweaks, scripts, GPO etc.) that I find beneficial and very useful to help obtaining a suitable build image to then deploy etc.
jmak Posted February 3, 2017 Posted February 3, 2017 We got SCCM for free when we purchased our Windows Server Datacenter licenses. It also included the CALs too. [b]OVS-ES Core Infrastructure Server (CIS) Data Centre[/b] All Language Licence with Software Assurance Pack OLV F 1 Year Additional Product 2 Processor (Additional Product Licence) - Academic - Volume Licence (Electronic Delivery) P/N: FUD-00820 (£299.27 each) I went back to multiple standard licences this year [emoji20] Looks like I DNRC (did not recall correctly)... I know I was quoted 2 prices and I thought that was the difference. Must have been something else I decided I didn't want.
Fazza Posted February 3, 2017 Posted February 3, 2017 I love Microsoft Licensing it's soooo easy to understand! Each time we renew they change how it's done and to add insult to injury there are multiple ways you can license all your software (all of which are correct) so you just pick the cheapest way - all you need is a large calculator, an excel spreadsheet and a packet of headache pills and a large wall to bang your head on!!!
gshaw Posted February 3, 2017 Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) We got SCCM for free when we purchased our Windows Server Datacenter licenses as part of the CIS. It also included the CALs too. [b]OVS-ES Core Infrastructure Server (CIS) Data Centre[/b] All Language Licence with Software Assurance Pack OLV F 1 Year Additional Product 2 Processor (Additional Product Licence) - Academic - Volume Licence (Electronic Delivery) P/N: FUD-00820 (£299.27 each) @Arthur you 100% sure this is the server licenses and the CALs? There used to be a separate System Center Datacenter license last time I needed it, has something changed? We already buy 10 DC licenses for our VM hosts so if that means I've already got SCCM & co for free I'll definitely be making use of them, similarly SCEP as Sophos is a pain Ahhh just looked up what CIS is, what's the price difference like compared to just Server Datacenter on its own? Edited February 3, 2017 by gshaw
themightymrp Posted February 3, 2017 Posted February 3, 2017 We are licensed for SCCM but to be honest I haven't had time to get my head around it. For now I'm still using WDS & MDT to sort my images (not Windows 10 yet). I install Win 7, Office and a smattering of core applications onto a Hyper-V VM. I've got a task sequence which builds this core image with all windows updates, then syspreps and captures it. I run this rebuild every few months to keep things fresh. I then have some other task sequences which use that image as a base and installs particular selections of software and captures them as other images. I have 3 images for staff and 3 for students. One is general school use, one for the DT/Art area and one for Science (their software takes up gigs of space). I can then deploy each of these options to clients, drivers being injected during the task sequence. So pre-prepared 'fat' images but they can be rebuilt quickly using a 3 step sequence. 2
Arthur Posted February 3, 2017 Posted February 3, 2017 Ahhh just looked up what CIS is, what's the price difference like compared to just Server Datacenter on its own? Not sure since we've only ever bought CIS licenses, but I don't think there was much in it. you 100% sure this is the server licenses and the CALs? The Microsoft reseller we use seems to think so, although our account manager may have got confused with the "OVS-ES Education Desktop with Core CAL Suite" which we also purchased. There used to be a separate System Center Datacenter license last time I needed it, has something changed? You can buy both Windows Server and System Center licenses separately, but it's more expensive compared to just buying the CIS bundle.
Alis_Klar Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 Noobie question: If I have 500 activations on my OVS licence on VLSC. As long as I am re-deploying and activiating 30 pcs on the same hardware each time I image I won't be consuming all my activations will I?
MYK-IT Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 Noobie question: If I have 500 activations on my OVS licence on VLSC. As long as I am re-deploying and activiating 30 pcs on the same hardware each time I image I won't be consuming all my activations will I? Sounds like you are using MAK-based activation. (Request from MS, if required) and use a KMS Key, instead of MAK For Windows 10, you can also use Active-Directory-based Activation (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/volume-activation/activate-using-active-directory-based-activation-client) 2
themightymrp Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 I've not tried it so not 100% sure, but I think if you have VAMT installed for managing your activations, it will log devices that have activated using MAK and allow them to be reused if the machine is reinstalled in the future. I think....?!
MartinT Posted August 8, 2019 Posted August 8, 2019 We use MAK activation and re-imaging machines does burn licences. However, I have never had a problem asking Microsoft for, say, 100 more licences. They do it without question.
Alis_Klar Posted August 12, 2019 Posted August 12, 2019 @MYK-IT is Active-Directory-based Activation better/easier than running a KMS server?
FragglePete Posted August 12, 2019 Posted August 12, 2019 @MYK-IT is Active-Directory-based Activation better/easier than running a KMS server? Incredibly easy - install the 'Feature' and then run through the activation process. It sticks a 'token' in your AD so any machine that is joined to the domain will activate. You don't have to keep the 'feature' installed on the Server once done. Went over to it last year and it's worked well for us. Pete 1
Alis_Klar Posted August 12, 2019 Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) Had to google what a GVLK was! but it seems to make sense now. Edited August 12, 2019 by Alis_Klar
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