Garacesh Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 We're looking at mounting a tablet into a display and whacking it in kiosk mode, but I find myself at a loss for footage that I can use to test what exactly the tablet can keep up with. Ideally I need a 1080p and a 720p video to test (the tablet has a native resolution of 1920x1080 but I'm not convinced it'll hold up smoothly with 1080p video), and it occurs to me I have no idea where you can (legally!) get a hold of movie trailers or something like that which I could use to test it. I don't want to use YouTube because over the internet (and wireless) won't be a fair test, and there's a million dodgy-looking sites only a Google search away, but is there anywhere that are actually legit?
Steve21 Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 Video Samples | DivX.com The sort they use on the TVs in shops Steve
Garacesh Posted June 23, 2016 Author Posted June 23, 2016 Aye, I found that one, but isn't divx a proprietary codec? Which again makes it a bit of an unfair test against a bog-standard MP4? (Which is what I assume reprographics will whip up.)
Steve21 Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 Surely you'd want to test the worst case first? As wouldn't this be for everything? DVDs etc? What about the blender demo's? Index of /peach/bigbuckbunny_movies/ Steve
Garacesh Posted June 23, 2016 Author Posted June 23, 2016 (edited) As wouldn't this be for everything? DVDs etc? Nope. It's one of those weird and wonderful brainchilds. They want to mount a tablet inside a display unit that looks like a giant mobile phone advertising our school app. The tablet only makes up a small portion of the entire display. The tablet will be running $VideoPlayer (Most likely either Windows Media Player or VLC) in kiosk mode, pre-loaded with a video clip explaining more about the app. If the idea proves to be successful, I imagine it may get reused for something similar down the line, but for now it's single-purpose. I'll give those blender videos a shot, thanks! Edited June 23, 2016 by Garacesh
Norphy Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 Aye, I found that one, but isn't divx a proprietary codec? Which again makes it a bit of an unfair test against a bog-standard MP4? (Which is what I assume reprographics will whip up.) Wouldn't your bog standard MP4 be encoded with H264? And don't most tablets have hardware acceleration for H264 videos these days? I would be fairly surprised if it couldn't play a 1080p video on any halfway decent tablet. Here is a free animation you can try: https://peach.blender.org/download/
GuyJD Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 Didn't Windows 7 ship with a 720 and 1080 test video in the sample videos folder? Will probably be in wmv format though.
Arthur Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 And don't most tablets have hardware acceleration for H264 videos these days? I was going to say the same thing. 1080p H.264 MP4s or MKVs aren't going to be an issue for almost any tablet made within the last 4-5 years.
synaesthesia Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 Back in the day wasn't it Big Buck Rabbit or something like that for testing HD video? (Please be careful searching that!)
Arthur Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 Back in the day wasn't it Big Buck Rabbit or something like that for testing HD video? (Please be careful searching that!) @Norphy posted a link to Big Buck Bunny above.
Garacesh Posted June 24, 2016 Author Posted June 24, 2016 Both the 1080p and the 720p video are pretty choppy
Arthur Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 Both the 1080p and the 720p video are pretty choppy What tablet is it?
Arthur Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 I have no idea where you can (legally!) get a hold of movie trailers http://www.davestrailerpage.co.uk ^ Open website in Chrome, right-click trailer link(s), Save As to download.
Garacesh Posted June 24, 2016 Author Posted June 24, 2016 Dave's Movie Trailer Page - Download HD Movie Trailers ^ Open website in Chrome, right-click trailer link(s), Save As to download. Dodgy 'download' advert, bland page with no formatting, I'm not convinced on the legality part there What tablet is it? Dell Venue 11 Pro Could be a driver issue, I did put W10 on it to test a while back, might've missed the igfx pack.
Arthur Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 Dodgy 'download' advert, bland page with no formatting I don't see any adverts on that site for some reason. I'm not convinced on the legality part there The trailers themselves are all hosted by the movie companies or Apple. Not sure what's illegal about that? Could be a driver issue, I did put W10 on it to test a while back, might've missed the igfx pack. Yeah. I would make sure you have the latest Intel drivers installed.
Norphy Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 I think it must be, that will either be a Bay Trail Atom, a Core M or Core i3 CPU, all of which are capable of playing H264 in hardware. If you can persuade it to install, you may have better luck with a driver downloaded directly from Intel rather than a Dell badged one. I've found the Dell drivers to be a driver version or two behind and frequently haven't been the stablest.
Garacesh Posted June 24, 2016 Author Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) I don't see any adverts on that site for some reason. . Ah. I didn't actually check where the files were being served from, just that the site looked a little.. suspect Edit: @Norphy I find that with most manufacturers that re-brand intel drivers to be honest, but the intel driver assistant thingymajig isn't proxy aware, and last time I tried to find an individual driver (even though I knew what chipset the board had) it took me forever to wade through downloads, and then every one I tried didn't work. Intel's site isn't hugely user-friendly. Edited June 24, 2016 by Garacesh
Norphy Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 Ah. I didn't actually check where the files were being served from, just that the site looked a little.. suspect Edit: @Norphy I find that with most manufacturers that re-brand intel drivers to be honest, but the intel driver assistant thingymajig isn't proxy aware, and last time I tried to find an individual driver (even though I knew what chipset the board had) it took me forever to wade through downloads, and then every one I tried didn't work. Intel's site isn't hugely user-friendly. Granted, they do but as I say, Dell drivers have a habit of being behind. I'm using a Dell Optiplex 9020 PC at work with Windows 10. The driver that Dell provide for it is about two versions old. It crashes regularly. The only way I can stop the display driver crashes is to force it to use a driver downloaded from Intel directly. With a Dell Venue 7 that I used a while ago, whenever you tried to turn the thing off it rebooted. Again, that was a driver issue. With the latest driver from Dell it rebooted instead of shut down. With a driver from Intel it behaved properly. Maybe the Dell drivers will be ok for you but experience has taught me to try and use ones directly from Intel if I can. Even if it does mean navigating that abomination of a website.
Arthur Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 By the way, you might find DXVA Checker useful since it tells you which codecs and resolutions are hardware accelerated by your GPU. 1
Garacesh Posted June 24, 2016 Author Posted June 24, 2016 By the way, you might find DXVA Checker useful since it tells you which codecs and resolutions are hardware accelerated by your GPU. Fantastic, I'll give that a bash. I'm going to try returning it to W8.1 (which is what it came with) because Speccy can't figure out its chipset.
Arthur Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) I'm going to try returning it to W8.1 (which is what it came with) because Speccy can't figure out its chipset. If you post the hardware ID of your GPU we might be able to figure it out. Edit. AIDA64 might be able to tell you what it is since it includes its own HW database. Edited June 24, 2016 by Arthur
Garacesh Posted June 24, 2016 Author Posted June 24, 2016 PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F31&SUBSYS_06031028&REV09 PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F31&SUBSYS_06031028 PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F31&CC_030000 PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F31&CC_0300
GuyJD Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) 8086 is intel http://pcidatabase.com/search.php?device_search_str=0F31&device_search.x=0&device_search.y=0&device_search=search+devices Edited June 24, 2016 by GuyJD
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