LeightonJames Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Hi guys Strange one here and I'm not sure where this post should live... One of my schools has asked me to trace an email previously and when I have done it for them this time the Originating IP is registered to the MoD. I thought it was an error so did it again and got the same result. Anyone seen anything like this before, and no, the email account the email was sent from does not belong to a MoD employee (that we know of anyways). Email Header (possible identifying details removed): Received: from he1pr01cu001.internal.outlook.com by HE1PR02MB1068.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com with HTTP via HE1PR01CA0006.EURPRD01.PROD.EXCHANGELABS.COM; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 20:06:26 +0000 Received: from HE1PR02MB1116.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com ([10.163.173.26]) by HE1PR02MB1116.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com ([10.163.173.26]) with mapi id 15.01.0447.017; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 20:06:26 +0000 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary From: [email protected]x To: [email protected]x Subject: Re: Tomorrow Thread-Topic: Tomorrow Thread-Index: AdGFI7NHVhYfeITVQSSHBVQ/mVB+UAA49+JJ Date: Day, date Month Year Time Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-Exchange-Organization-SCL: -1 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MS-Exchange-Organization-MessageDirectionality: Originating X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: HE1PR02MB1116.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthMechanism: 04 X-Originating-IP: [25.163.2.132] X-MS-Exchange-Organization-Network-Message-Id: 88da2345-67c2-4cc2-d8b9-08d3541fc7f7 X-MS-Exchange-Organization-Antispam-Report: SFV:SKI;SCL:-1 X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: SFV:SKI;SCL:-1 Return-Path: [email protected] X-MS-Exchange-Transport-EndToEndLatency: 00:00:01.3141764 Report from who.is on the Orginating IP: [Querying whois.arin.net] [Redirected to whois.ripe.net] [Querying whois.ripe.net] [whois.ripe.net] % This is the RIPE Database query service. % The objects are in RPSL format. % % The RIPE Database is subject to Terms and Conditions. % See http://www.ripe.net/db/support/db-terms-conditions.pdf % Note: this output has been filtered. % To receive output for a database update, use the "-B" flag. % Information related to '25.0.0.0 - 25.255.255.255' % Abuse contact for '25.0.0.0 - 25.255.255.255' is '[email protected]' inetnum: 25.0.0.0 - 25.255.255.255 netname: UK-MOD-19850128 country: GB org: ORG-DMoD1-RIPE admin-c: MN1891-RIPE tech-c: MN1891-RIPE status: LEGACY mnt-by: UK-MOD-MNT mnt-domains: UK-MOD-MNT mnt-routes: UK-MOD-MNT mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-LEGACY-MNT created: 2005-08-23T10:27:23Z last-modified: 2015-07-24T14:31:16Z source: RIPE # Filtered organisation: ORG-DMoD1-RIPE org-name: UK Ministry of Defence org-type: LIR address: Not Published address: Not Published address: Not Published address: UNITED KINGDOM phone: +443067700816 admin-c: MN1891-RIPE mnt-ref: UK-MOD-MNT mnt-ref: RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT abuse-c: MH12763-RIPE created: 2004-04-17T12:18:23Z last-modified: 2015-04-16T11:23:42Z source: RIPE # Filtered person: Mathew Newton address: Network Technical Authority address: UK Ministry of Defence phone: +44 (0)30 677 00816 abuse-mailbox: [email protected] nic-hdl: MN1891-RIPE created: 2005-03-18T10:42:04Z last-modified: 2014-01-17T14:55:29Z source: RIPE # Filtered mnt-by: UK-MOD-MNT % Information related to '25.160.0.0/11AS203665' route: 25.160.0.0/11 descr: UK Ministry of Defence origin: AS203665 mnt-by: UK-MOD-MNT created: 2015-11-25T11:02:00Z last-modified: 2015-11-25T11:02:00Z source: RIPE % This query was served by the RIPE Database Query Service version 1.86 (DB-2) I'm puzzled by this one, I really am. There is no obvious reason for this to be the source of this email.
JordanT91 Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 The MoD used to own large IP address ranges. It could simply be that WHOIS or whatever hasn't been updated to show the new owner information for that address.
bald_pig Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 The MoD used to own large IP address ranges. It could simply be that WHOIS or whatever hasn't been updated to show the new owner information for that address. Record is less than 6 months old, so doubt it. Looks to me like they are using an MOD internet connection!
Michael_Redstor Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Let's hope you don't have any oil deposits near your school or they might invade! They're probably doing recon.
LeightonJames Posted April 12, 2016 Author Posted April 12, 2016 Record is less than 6 months old, so doubt it. Looks to me like they are using an MOD internet connection! I thought the same thing but I have no idea why. It's all very strange and I can't work it out.
bald_pig Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 I thought the same thing but I have no idea why. It's all very strange and I can't work it out. Long shot, but partner/spouse serving and they live on barracks?
GuyJD Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Yeah like JordanT91 said, it's a legacy IPv4 prefix that is/was owned by the UK MoD a lot of large companies and government organisations owned complete prefixes but have had to return them back to the pool as more IPv4 address are required by the ever increasing number of ISPs around the world. it may be that the MoD still owns it and leases segments out to ISPs but I think it's more likely that records of who owns it now haven't been updated.
JordanT91 Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Apparently Hamachi uses this IP range because they know that it's empty and not used.
LeightonJames Posted April 12, 2016 Author Posted April 12, 2016 Thanks for the responses guys. I'm looking forward to seeing how this plays out
bald_pig Posted April 13, 2016 Posted April 13, 2016 A little googling suggests that the IP belongs to a missile company with an office in Strand!
DJ-1701 Posted April 13, 2016 Posted April 13, 2016 Most likely its a spoof ip As opposed to a spook's ip.
matt40k Posted April 13, 2016 Posted April 13, 2016 LOL!!! You'd hope they don't set their reserve dns whois record - it would be like updating your LinkedIn with your promotion to double agent. 1
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