Sheridan Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 I'm sure this has been asked before, but I can't seem to find an up to date answer, and my head is spinning from trying to read through the murky licensing documents! We have an OVS-ES agreement with MS, and want to move from our old Xenapp solution to the latest RDS - do we need to buy TS CALS or are we already covered? I'm struggling to find a definitive mention of this in any MS documentation, it just mentions Core CALS. We only need this for Staff (initially anyway) so I'm thinking that the FTE count would cover it...
3s-gtech Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 You'll need RDS CALs if you bought the core pack. You should only need the same number as your FTE count, though that may only be for actual staff connectors - I'm not sure if you'd need as many CALs as you have potential connectors (1000+?) 1
Sheridan Posted January 19, 2016 Author Posted January 19, 2016 Yeah we have the core pack - again its not really clear whether we opt for just FTE staff, or external connectors (and how do we quantify that!) Sometimes the old Select agreement was simpler!
denzal2k4 Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 Also depends whether you go for device or user cals, apparently user cals aren't properly restricted when the limit is hit but device cals are, from my limited understanding anyway:confused:. We have just gone through signing up for a new agreement which included rds cals. Best bet is to speak to a reseller, @VeryPC dealt with ours and were a great help. 1
Sheridan Posted January 19, 2016 Author Posted January 19, 2016 Well, with it being all staff potentially we're better of with User CALS, student access probably won't happen as they're supposed to use the VLE for this kind of thing. If we have to start buying CALS on top of the OVS we might be better off renewing our Citrix solution.
localzuk Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 We use RDS Device CALS, and pay for our FTE number. We then have as many as we need for all our clients. (ie. we have about 80 FTE but have 500 device CALs installed at the moment).
Sheridan Posted January 19, 2016 Author Posted January 19, 2016 We use RDS Device CALS, and pay for our FTE number. We then have as many as we need for all our clients. (ie. we have about 80 FTE but have 500 device CALs installed at the moment). So you bought several CALS per staff member? Thats an alternative as I'm still not sure whether buying RDP User CALS under our OVS-ES entitles those to be used offsite.
localzuk Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) No, RDS CALs work via the FTE amount. So, we bought 80, and can use as many as we need. At least that's how its been for as long as OVS-ES has been around, even to the extent that when I originally ordered RDS CALs (back when they were TS CALs, I put our device number in and every reseller reduced it down to the FTE count). Edited January 19, 2016 by localzuk 1
Steve21 Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 So you bought several CALS per staff member? Thats an alternative as I'm still not sure whether buying RDP User CALS under our OVS-ES entitles those to be used offsite. It's really not expensive for RDS. (Depending on staff numbers) As an example for 101 FTE - £564.35 Steve 1
Sheridan Posted January 19, 2016 Author Posted January 19, 2016 Thanks - this is starting to make more sense now! I'm awaiting a quote for User CALS * FTE to see if I can add this to our existing OVS agreement
Steve21 Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 If you get the full Ent Cal pack it's about £34 per user, and £6 for RDS so £40 per FTE Just to give an overall estimate. Steve
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