Tearing my hair out over MS Licensing

[tmcd35]

(guesstimate)

So, £35 per fte sounds a really good deal.

 

It is but I'd be interested in the maths. £35 x 600fte x 3yrs = £63,000. Or 5yrs = £105,000.

 

I'd be interested to know how much the equivalent perpetual licencing costs for 700 machines.

 

Admittedly £21,000 per year for 5 years sounds better than £90,000 upfront (another guesstimate). Of course it's only £63,000 over 3 years, so if you upgrade your OS every 3 years it £30,000 cheaper than the guesstimate.

 

The conundrum of EES.

[mjk]

(guesstimate)

 

 

It is but I'd be interested in the maths. £35 x 600fte x 3yrs = £63,000. Or 5yrs = £105,000.

 

I'd be interested to know how much the equivalent perpetual licencing costs for 700 machines.

 

I think it depends if you use the OEM licenses. Assuming you don't you'd be looking at ( Windows (£35) + Office (£35) + CALS (£2) ) X 700 + SQL (£750 ish) = £51k or about £10k per year on a 5yr upgrade.

[tmcd35]

I did wonder if the Staff:Computer ratio was wrong for EES. Although you do need to add in MDOP, SCCM, Endpoint and Exchange (assuming their using all of them) to be fully equivalent. Endpoint would be something like 10p x 700 devices x 12 months x 5 years = £4,200, for example.

[mjk]

I did wonder if the Staff:Computer ratio was wrong for EES. Although you do need to add in MDOP, SCCM, Endpoint and Exchange (assuming their using all of them) to be fully equivalent. Endpoint would be something like 10p x 700 devices x 12 months x 5 years = £4,200, for example.

 

I think people often overlook perpetual licenses, especially in light of budget cuts and the possibility of long release cycles.

[aleach2]

Hi everyone,

 

I have been trying to work out the best licensing approach for our school. I arrived at my current school to discover all the licensing in complete disarray (they expired last August) and the RM CC4 environment on its knees, accompanied by an RM abandoned Office 365 project. As a result, I have had no choice than to sever ties with RM as the account management has been pretty poor and they seemed fairly disinterested in doing much to save the relationship.

 

So, I am currently on the market for a new licensing partner, but need to pull together costs for server and cal licensing for the school asap as we need to implement a new server environment to replace the Server 2003 CC4 environment.

 

We have 600 fte's and 700 PCs.

 

I need to license the following, but am confused about CALs and whether EES represents value for money for us based on our ftes v device count:

 

4 x Windows Server 2012 R2 DataCenter Licenses 1 Yr

5 x SQL Server Enterprise 1Yr

4 x Windows System Center 2012 Datacenter

 

We have managed to implement office 365, so have got E1 Faculty/Student licensing.

 

We would also like to implement MDOP at the same time as SCCM to help us deliver UE-V and App-V but again, I have no idea how this is licensed and am struggling under the barrage of url links in the microsoft pages to make sense of it all!

 

Anyone here know anything about licensing these environments that can point me in the right direction?!?

 

Thanks

 

Speak to Cheryl Lapham at XMA (Viglen). They have looked after our licensing for years now. They always come in with a very good price and the extra emails she sends notifying you to changes to licensing structures, free stuff and training courses are great. Details below:

 

Tel: 01727 201890

Email: [email protected]

[TechSupp]

Full time staff is classed a member of staff working more than 200 hours per year, formula below for the FTE count:

 

 

This is what I was given when I was asked to calculate the FTE staff numbers which indicates a reduction for part time staff (which we have a few). may impact on your calculations. The info was from a MS Document.

[Cache]

That's the US calculation, the UK FTE is purely number of staff who use a computer and work over 200 hours per year (roughly 5 hours per week term time only) - 2nd bullet point in this document: http://download.microsoft.com/documents/uk/education/ees/Enrollment-for-Education-Solutions-Offering-Overview.pdf Edited May 22, 2015 by Cache