kevin_lane Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 I feel the pain however mine is with sky aka BT line it really is stupid sometimes I dont even bother to go on the internet and god forbidden for me and the wife try and stream anything and working from home well thats hit and miss and yet we have a 100/100meg connection which has over 400 people going over it and its bliss I spoke to a person a vm who said that when they roll out any sort of connection that they do a survey on the area and estimate the potential income and expenditure for putting somthing in now I get that to a point however ss its already been mentioned we are now living in the age of were everything should be instantly available and why arnt we I sometimes wonder if it would be cheaper for me to run a fiber connection to my in laws
rich_tech Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 How can people justify paying £90 a month for home broadband? lol, I would never pay that nowadays and I am lucky enough to live in a town where even the suburb I am moving too at the end of next week can give me 152mb ! (VM Area), but looking back I did get hammered for being an early adopter of broadband. I was originally an NTL customer for broadband (cant remember exact year, but it was around 1998/2000), there was no choice in provider for me as BT hadn't even sorted out our cities main exchange then which I was connected too for telephone, NTL were way ahead of the game, so the only option was to go NTL for the broadband and back then they would only let you have the broadband if you had the cable TV and telephone, so I ended up with a subscription for £96 a month then for it all, I think it was for 512kb initially and I think I wangled getting rid of the TV at some point and upped to their maxiumum 1mb when it first came out. Nowadays its a bit over £30 for 152mb I am paying according to the update I had the other day for the free "Upgrade from 120 to 152mb" I had a few friends at the time in a worse case for costs, as they lived in a small village in Devon which was last on the list for enabling broadband and for their online gaming they had no choice but to have 2x 64kb ISDN lines in their home to have decent ping speeds playing CS/DoD/TF, I think they were paying a small fortune for that with their ISP subscription on top for unmetered/free call connectivity to the web. - - - Updated - - - How can people justify paying £90 a month for home broadband? lol, I would never pay that nowadays and I am lucky enough to live in a town where even the suburb I am moving too at the end of next week can give me 152mb ! (VM Area), but looking back I did get hammered for being an early adopter of broadband. I was originally an NTL customer for broadband (cant remember exact year, but it was around 1998/2000), there was no choice in provider for me as BT hadn't even sorted out our cities main exchange then which I was connected to for telephone, NTL were way ahead of the game, so the only option was to go NTL for the broadband and back then they would only let you have the broadband if you had the cable TV and telephone, so I ended up with a subscription for £96 a month then for it all, I think it was for 512kb initially and I think I wangled getting rid of the TV at some point and upped to their maxiumum 1mb when it first came out. Nowadays its a bit over £30 for 152mb I am paying according to the update I had the other day for the free "Upgrade from 120 to 152mb" I had a few friends at the time in a worse case for costs, as they lived in a small village in Devon which was last on the list for enabling broadband and for their online gaming they had no choice but to have 2x 64kb ISDN lines in their home to have decent ping speeds playing CS/DoD/TF, I think they were paying a small fortune for that with their ISP subscription on top for unmetered/free call connectivity to the web.
synaesthesia Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 Why on earth would they used twin 64k ISDN? That actually *adds* to ping due to the overheads involved in line bonding, unless it was for separate PCs in the same house?
tmcd35 Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 I've been a VM customer for well over a decade and honestly the only real problem with Broadband I've ever had with them is their peek time throttling policy. I find it slightly annoying that Youtune and iPlayer sometimes still buffers on a 60mbps connection, grrr. I was originally an NTL customer for broadband (cant remember exact year, but it was around 1998/2000), there was no choice in provider for me as BT hadn't even sorted out our cities main exchange then which I was connected too for telephone, NTL were way ahead of the game, so the only option was to go NTL for the broadband and back then they would only let you have the broadband if you had the cable TV and telephone, so I ended up with a subscription for £96 a month then for it all, I think it was for 512kb initially and I think I wangled getting rid of the TV at some point and upped to their maxiumum 1mb when it first came out. Nowadays its a bit over £30 for 152mb I am paying according to the update I had the other day for the free "Upgrade from 120 to 152mb" I started out paying Demon Internet £10 and then what ever the per minute call rate was to the nearest Point of Presence. I'm sure that cost my parents a pretty penny on their phone bills at the time. That said, I was never on the Internet for long, mostly went on BBS's. Even then both were light on content. An hour or so a week was enough. We did pay Plus.net something like £15 a month for a local rate number we connected to through ISDN for a while. Usually used a single line at 64kbps so we didn't tie up the other line being used for the phone. Got 128kpbs out of both lines. That cost something like £75 per month for the ISDN line rental. Plus.net and local call rates were on top of that! When I first got broadband in 2001/2, it was a BT engineer install jobbie and cost something like £30 for 512kbps. I now pay about £26 for 60mbps. I think they are going to double my speed (again) to 120mbps sometime this year. I may drop back down to 60mbps which will be their lowest package and save money. I could get 152mbps now, but I really can't see the need for it.
mac_shinobi Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 To be fair, his name is @rich_tech You don't get to comment on anything involving money. Ever Maybe he should buy us an X99 gaming rig each eh @Garacesh lol - seems as though @Sunnyknight has a lotta money to spend !!! What was that I heard - a dual GTX 980 Strix GPU in SLI, at least 32gb RAM, some ssd's and some extra hard drives for storage and @Sunnyknight will pre do the water cooling for us Awesome Sauce !!!
Garacesh Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 Maybe he should buy us an X99 gaming rig each eh @Garacesh lol - seems as though @Sunnyknight has a lotta money to spend !!! What was that I heard - a dual GTX 980 Strix GPU in SLI, at least 32gb RAM, some ssd's and some extra hard drives for storage and @Sunnyknight will pre do the water cooling for us Awesome Sauce !!! I get to start building my new rig tonight, hopefully! Kill coils should arrive today if I'm lucky. It's gonna be SWEEET. And it'll probably run fantastic on my ~76MB fibre 2
mac_shinobi Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 I get to start building my new rig tonight, hopefully! Kill coils should arrive today if I'm lucky. It's gonna be SWEEET. And it'll probably run fantastic on my ~76MB fibre Building mine This Sunday - can't wait, bit nervous but if it all works I will be playing Doom 3 !!
rich_tech Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 Why on earth would they used twin 64k ISDN? That actually *adds* to ping due to the overheads involved in line bonding, unless it was for separate PCs in the same house? Aye, it was a husband and wife and both had their PCs online at once to play CS/DoD/TF/BF1942, I recall them saying that bonding when the husband tried it was awful.
Davit2005 Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) Originally with Cable and Wireless, stayed when changed to NTL, and carried on when it went to Virgin. After the change to Virgin I starting having issues, at first this wasn't too bad because I could speak to someone above the normal restart everything routine and if the call lasted more than 10 mins it got refunded because all the time the problem was with their equipment. I went back to Virgin after a short stint with TalkTalk. Not a good start to the initial install, I knew where the problem was WITH THEM, they had the cheek to put me through to a company who wanted to charge me to sort it out, needless to say the company directed me back to Virgin. A few hours later the problem was resolved by itself Edited January 23, 2015 by Davit2005
rich_tech Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 I've been a VM customer for well over a decade and honestly the only real problem with Broadband I've ever had with them is their peek time throttling policy. I find it slightly annoying that Youtune and iPlayer sometimes still buffers on a 60mbps connection, grrr. I started out paying Demon Internet £10 and then what ever the per minute call rate was to the nearest Point of Presence. I'm sure that cost my parents a pretty penny on their phone bills at the time. That said, I was never on the Internet for long, mostly went on BBS's. Even then both were light on content. An hour or so a week was enough. We did pay Plus.net something like £15 a month for a local rate number we connected to through ISDN for a while. Usually used a single line at 64kbps so we didn't tie up the other line being used for the phone. Got 128kpbs out of both lines. That cost something like £75 per month for the ISDN line rental. Plus.net and local call rates were on top of that! When I first got broadband in 2001/2, it was a BT engineer install jobbie and cost something like £30 for 512kbps. I now pay about £26 for 60mbps. I think they are going to double my speed (again) to 120mbps sometime this year. I may drop back down to 60mbps which will be their lowest package and save money. I could get 152mbps now, but I really can't see the need for it. My first foray onto the internet when I was much younger (think it was about 1995/6) it was with a 14.4kbps modem on my first PC with Compuserve, usually it was less than about an hour a time as I would be hogging the parents telephone line to connect up, my nearest point of presence for the web, involved a phone call to a Cardiff number at the time (I live in Swansea), one of the first things I ever did online, was download the doom shareware, I think I had to leave the line on for a ridiculous time to get that down on the connection I had.
Sunnyknight Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 I get to start building my new rig tonight, hopefully! Kill coils should arrive today if I'm lucky. It's gonna be SWEEET. And it'll probably run fantastic on my ~76MB fibre If my application gets accepted, then i may 😉 1
Garacesh Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 My first foray onto the internet when I was much younger (think it was about 1995/6) it was with a 14.4kbps modem on my first PC with Compuserve, usually it was less than about an hour a time as I would be hogging the parents telephone line to connect up, my nearest point of presence for the web, involved a phone call to a Cardiff number at the time (I live in Swansea), one of the first things I ever did online, was download the doom shareware, I think I had to leave the line on for a ridiculous time to get that down on the connection I had. AOL 56k for me.. ERRRRRRR ERRURRERRERRERRHHRRHURHH.. SCREEEEEEEEE!! ERRURRR.. ERRRUUUEEE.. SCCRREEEEEEEE Fond memories. Except not fond. Not fond at all. If my application gets accepted, then i may I still got this xP 1
mac_shinobi Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) If my application gets accepted, then i may What do you mean "IF" lol - keep encouraging the rest of us to spend lots of money LOL Now your turn to spend lotsa monies !! Edited January 23, 2015 by mac_shinobi
CAM Posted January 25, 2015 Author Posted January 25, 2015 It's reached a point where it is quicker to upload something then download it (which in the world of asynchronous speeds plaguing the UK is far from a good thing...) http://www.speedtest.net/result/4089002020.png
CAM Posted January 30, 2015 Author Posted January 30, 2015 Quick question, does anyone have experience with Talk Talk? They are the next fastest service in my area (15-20Mb fibre when the ADSL average is 11-14Mb FTTC, 7-8Mb for non-fibre).
Garacesh Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 Not great. (No personal experience, though) Until last year they were the most complained about service.. A title they'd held for multiple years on the trot. Knocked off by EE now, but still the most complained about landline provider. 1
Sunnyknight Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 Join beaaa teaaaa. Even on adsl 6mb i got better pings and dl speeds than people on every other provider bar vm.
Davit2005 Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) Quick question, does anyone have experience with Talk Talk? They are the next fastest service in my area (15-20Mb fibre when the ADSL average is 11-14Mb FTTC, 7-8Mb for non-fibre). I was with them for 2 years about, about 3-4 years ago had no problems but at the time was only getting 2.2Mb/s compared to the 30Mb/s I was previously getting with VM (but I got fed up with VM that much ) . Edited January 30, 2015 by Davit2005 1
CAM Posted January 30, 2015 Author Posted January 30, 2015 Join beaaa teaaaa. Even on adsl 6mb i got better pings and dl speeds than people on every other provider bar vm. I'm still angry with BT for stinging me £50 for leaving them even though I was with them for over 10 years! Oh and they lost our phone number when we said we wanted to keep it....
Edu-IT Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 Quick question, does anyone have experience with Talk Talk? They are the next fastest service in my area (15-20Mb fibre when the ADSL average is 11-14Mb FTTC, 7-8Mb for non-fibre).I'd avoid. Not the best customer service when things go wrong.
PotNoodleTech Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 Would now be a bad time to say I actually think Virgin is really good?
spadam Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 Quick question, does anyone have experience with Talk Talk? They are the next fastest service in my area (15-20Mb fibre when the ADSL average is 11-14Mb FTTC, 7-8Mb for non-fibre). My understanding has always been that as all providers other than Virgin use the same lines as BT then the speed you actually get will only be as fast as you would get with BT or slower regardless of the speeds advertised. Don't even know hwere I heard that though so stand to be corrected if anyone knows better...
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