nicholab Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 How do you support you iPads printing have you installed bonjour printing for Windows and has any one done this with papercut as part of the mix as well?
andy_b Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 Pretty much we do what is on here: PaperCut KB | FingerPrint iOS Printing Seems to work ok. Just adds an extra step to the printing process.
nicholab Posted March 4, 2014 Author Posted March 4, 2014 Do you use the finger software or bonjour print service?
andy_b Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 Fingerprint installed on the printer server, not tried the new version but assume it works pretty much the same.
Big_Ted Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 Fingerprint has been replaced - website here: Collobos - Presto
nicholab Posted March 11, 2014 Author Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) Is there a free version of Presto? Or do you need to run the enterprise version it would be cheaper getting a mac? Edited March 11, 2014 by nicholab
localzuk Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 It would be cheaper than a Mac. $340 a year is about £200. The cheapest Mac Mini Server is about £700 exc VAT. So at that pricing, you've got 3 1/2 years software for the same price as a server (which, lets face it, isn't a server - its a mac mini with OS X Server installed and consumer grade hard disks in it). You also save not having to have another device to manage.
seawolf Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 It would be cheaper than a Mac. $340 a year is about £200. The cheapest Mac Mini Server is about £700 exc VAT. So at that pricing, you've got 3 1/2 years software for the same price as a server (which, lets face it, isn't a server - its a mac mini with OS X Server installed and consumer grade hard disks in it). You also save not having to have another device to manage. You don't have to buy the "server" model of the Mac Mini. In fact, you don't even need a new one. I use a 2009 model Mini that I installed a 64GB SSD into, runs Mavericks fine, and serves 300+ iPads for AirPrint. Cost - less than $300 (market value). With time machine backups it's also a cinch to replace if it ever fails, which it probably won't for another 3 years or so. So, average that out to $100 a year or $200 a year if you want to buy a new base model mini and cost it out over 4 years. Either way, money saved using a Mini.
localzuk Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 You don't have to buy the "server" model of the Mac Mini. In fact, you don't even need a new one. I use a 2009 model Mini that I installed a 64GB SSD into, runs Mavericks fine, and serves 300+ iPads for AirPrint. Cost - less than $300 (market value). With time machine backups it's also a cinch to replace if it ever fails, which it probably won't for another 3 years or so. So, average that out to $100 a year or $200 a year if you want to buy a new base model mini and cost it out over 4 years. Either way, money saved using a Mini. How odd. That flies in the face of nearly everything you say about reliability and stability... Yes, you can use an old model, but if you have a policy of not putting old gear into server roles it won't fit. Not to mention, if you have a virtualised setup already, the Presto route would be more resilient.
seawolf Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 How do you support you iPads printing have you installed bonjour printing for Windows and has any one done this with papercut as part of the mix as well? Our iPad print solution is setup this way: 1. Papercut installed on 2008R2 server 2. 2009 Mac Mini running Papercut Pro with Papercut printers shared (so all printing must go through Papercut), and VLANs configured for all 5 WiFi VLANs. 3. Wide area Bonjour configured to provide print services across VLANs. Works a charm.
seawolf Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 How odd. That flies in the face of nearly everything you say about reliability and stability... Yes, you can use an old model, but if you have a policy of not putting old gear into server roles it won't fit. Not to mention, if you have a virtualised setup already, the Presto route would be more resilient. No, it's not odd or contradictory, it's a purely rational decision. It all depends on how critical the service is to the organisation and the impact of a failure and how long it would take to recover from it. Importance of iPads to be able to print - Low/Medium ETA to restore service - 1 hour maximum. Overall impact on school - Very Low On the other hand, if the core storage (SAN,NAS, or DAS) goes down - enormous impact. If the core switch goes down - enormous impact, etc.
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