tech_guy Posted September 6, 2007 Author Posted September 6, 2007 Out of interest (I'll understand if you don't wish to answer) what position was this person in? Member of the support team - office job.
Friez Posted September 6, 2007 Posted September 6, 2007 Hah! Shows you how ridiculous and petty some people can be! Why don't they set up another email account?
tech_guy Posted September 6, 2007 Author Posted September 6, 2007 Hah! Shows you how ridiculous and petty some people can be! Why don't they set up another email account? Why don't they just go and get a life, eh? 8)
MkII Posted September 6, 2007 Posted September 6, 2007 I would have thought it was a reasonable request to ask the person to vacate this account as it was set up for business use by the school. Also as you had the password to the account I think that also proves that you are part owner. Maybe problematic for them if they've let others know of the address and are still receiving mail from them. In this case it's definitely them in the wrong, they should never have started using it for personal use. I'd be wary of treading on their privacy though - be generous and give them every opportunity and plenty of time to vacate the account.
_Bat_ Posted September 6, 2007 Posted September 6, 2007 Keep us updated on this... I'm curious if anyone will have a sudden outbreak of common sense along the way
tech_guy Posted September 6, 2007 Author Posted September 6, 2007 In our AUP in states, "Limited personal use is considered acceptable". We've had a look and the account contains numerous personal emails from countless friends, family members and probably the family dog too. I think the upset is due to them using the account as their own personal one and not exclusively for business use as they were supposed to as set out in our AUP. They had plenty of time in the summer holiday after resigning to put things in order. It's just tough we've taken back the account and they've left their dirty laundry on show. If it ever did go to court (which is very unlikely) the lawyers for the LEA will have a great time reading out some of the personal emails to the court....
_Bat_ Posted September 6, 2007 Posted September 6, 2007 If it ever did go to court (which is very unlikely) the lawyers for the LEA will have a great time reading out some of the personal emails to the court.... Lol, really THAT personal?
TechMonkey Posted September 6, 2007 Posted September 6, 2007 Hmmmm, to make a proper professional judgement we would have to hear these graphic details so as to be able to judge the whole case on its technical details...... Ermm really........ Kidding of course, but you do wonder about people not thinking that these things would not be found!
paulhyman Posted September 6, 2007 Posted September 6, 2007 What are the standards for the e-mail accounts you have created ? Is it a personal name or something like that, the staff member would have a good case. But if you created the accounts like [email protected] then i don't know how she intends to prove it is her account. and if all the addresses you use are in some kind of order like IT1 IT2 IT3 HR1 HR2 and so on.
tech_guy Posted September 6, 2007 Author Posted September 6, 2007 What are the standards for the e-mail accounts you have created ? Is it a personal name or something like that, the staff member would have a good case. But if you created the accounts like [email protected] then i don't know how she intends to prove it is her account. and if all the addresses you use are in some kind of order like IT1 IT2 IT3 HR1 HR2 and so on. That's the really frustrating thing about all this - we created the account - and the username consists of the school name, an underscore, and the dept the user worked in. D'oh.......some people.
tech_guy Posted September 6, 2007 Author Posted September 6, 2007 Hmmmm, to make a proper professional judgement we would have to hear these graphic details... Really you don't. I didn't want to read any of it but the boss insisted. Some people never realise that stuff in emails & on the net sticks around forever do they?
_Bat_ Posted September 6, 2007 Posted September 6, 2007 Really you don't. I didn't want to read any of it but the boss insisted. Some people never realise that stuff in emails & on the net sticks around forever do they? Lol. I've had some rather interesting (to say the least) e-mails get caught on the swear filter (so they get sent to me and not the recipient). To save embarassment for certain people, I never told them that I'd seen the e-mails.
paulhyman Posted September 6, 2007 Posted September 6, 2007 lol They are wasting the schools time and money as well as their. Mind you they probably get legal aid and all the tax payers lose out. Well I think the person that said the only people to win will be the lawyers is right. They will lose as far as I can see. But I am not a law person.
paulhyman Posted September 6, 2007 Posted September 6, 2007 counter sue the member of staff is trying to steal the e-mail account and also trying to pretend to work for the school still.
DreddMetal Posted September 6, 2007 Posted September 6, 2007 all this talk of sueing people you'd think we were living in america
paulhyman Posted September 6, 2007 Posted September 6, 2007 lol that is where i the idea for the last post. when thinking about courts you need to think what would an American do !
Geoff Posted September 6, 2007 Posted September 6, 2007 all this talk of sueing people you'd think we were living in america Yes, the 51st state.
tech_guy Posted September 6, 2007 Author Posted September 6, 2007 We're waiting for them to pick all their toys up and put them back in the pram.
FN-GM Posted September 6, 2007 Posted September 6, 2007 no judge is going to take this seriously he will throw it out of court.
tech_guy Posted September 6, 2007 Author Posted September 6, 2007 no judge is going to take this seriously he will throw it out of court. We know. All great fun.
tech_guy Posted September 6, 2007 Author Posted September 6, 2007 Oh, and there were some photos too... ;-)
dancingdruid Posted September 7, 2007 Posted September 7, 2007 Lol. I've had some rather interesting (to say the least) e-mails get caught on the swear filter (so they get sent to me and not the recipient). To save embarassment for certain people, I never told them that I'd seen the e-mails. I once had emails redirected to me from a member of staff ordering s?x toys from an adult site. At that point I changed the filtering so any offending emails were deleted and sender/recipient notified! I have no wish to have any knowledge of these emails.
Skoggmeiger Posted September 7, 2007 Posted September 7, 2007 Lol. I've had some rather interesting (to say the least) e-mails get caught on the swear filter (so they get sent to me and not the recipient). To save embarassment for certain people, I never told them that I'd seen the e-mails. I once had emails redirected to me from a member of staff ordering sex toys from an adult site. At that point I changed the filtering so any offending emails were deleted and sender/recipient notified! I have no wish to have any knowledge of these emails. You kidding? I'd love knowing if a certain teacher was into S&M or bought butt-plugs!
witch Posted September 7, 2007 Posted September 7, 2007 I would have thought if you have the password and the 'forgotten password' thingy goes to you and not to her, then surely it is your account? BTY: why did you go into her account and not just send her an email warning her that it was to be deleted? I have just deleted the ex-head's account - he left 6 months ago - and he has come up and asked why he can't access it as he needs the email addresses on it! I am not in the least worried (it is a school easymail so slightly different to your situation) but the new head keeps telling me not to worry! It is just good practice to delete email addresses of people who have left. BUT I am going to issue guidelines on email usage and a reminder that the account will be deleted AS SOON AS the person leaves. An in-school email would sort out your problem as there can be no argument as to who the email account belong too. Good luck - what have your school said?
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