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localzuk

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So I have been considering emigrating to Australia at some point in the next few years (once my debts have been sorted over here and I've saved up a bit). Now, the question I have is, what should I be looking at doing in the meantime in order to ensure a nice easy life when getting a job over there.

 

I already have the following in my plans:

 

1. Learn to drive

2. Achieve my MCSE, and progress to MCSA

 

Are there any people on here that can speak from experience or Australians who know how the IT industry works over there?

 

Cheers!

edie209

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I'm going through the process at the moment I'm just waiting for my RPL to come back hopefully this week, I would suggest you have a look at the wanted skills list and use that to move forward.
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At a guess, given the process is administrative, paperwork and beaureucratic to the hilt that as much paper qualifications as you can get (recognised in Aus) would be the best way to go.

 

But like edie209 said, look for what they have on their list.

edie209

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I forgot to mention before you can even think about applying you have to achieve enough points to apply these points come from various aspect about you, i.e. is English your first language, how old you are (they don't want anyone over 45 on a skills visa), even your financial status has some input.

 

If you are serious I would suggest talking to Global Visas http://www.globalvisas.com Tel: +44 (0)20 7190 6585 these are the people I am using and they are very professional

Grommit

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I forgot to mention before you can even think about applying you have to achieve enough points to apply these points come from various aspect about you, i.e. is English your first language, how old you are (they don't want anyone over 45 on a skills visa), even your financial status has some input.

 

If you are serious I would suggest talking to Global Visas http://www.globalvisas.com Tel: +44 (0)20 7190 6585 these are the people I am using and they are very professional

 

Yea.. if you are over 45 they don't want you because you are not beautiful enough for the beaches..

 

No saggy middle aged people .. just the young and beautiful... like Hollyoaks

 

Bloody ageist...

tech_guy

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We totted up the points last year to see if we qualified and we made it by 1 point...and that was only because of the bond. Eek, I'm 45 this year. Where's my surfboard and Just for Men?
eduabncs

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Lol...no point worries for me....I have an Oz passport, so no worries there.

 

NZ...It's Oz 20 years ago! *Ducks and waits for incoming Anchor Butter!*

 

A word of warning though.. Although on the surface Australia and New Zealand appear to be similar to the UK they are not. They are both very different society's to the UK and the lifestyle etc. is different. And it is that that catches a lot of British immigrants out...the work ethic etc. is different for example. You work hard while at work, but once home the lifestyle in oz at least is outside and relaxed. If you have kids of 10 or younger they will take to it all likes ducks to water, older kids and adults find it harder to adjust to the changes in my experience. However lput the effort in to make firends etc and you will soon be rewarded with invites to BBQ's and other events and it is then that you will start to enjoy the Oz lifestyle.

 

Also another word of warning you'll be ribbed mercilessly everywhere as being the pommie!! :D

localzuk

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Well, points wise I would be accepted - according to the online points calculator I found, I have 125 points under my belt - as I'm 22 (argh! 23 in 5 days!), english is my first language, my skills are in the 'in demand list' etc...

 

The reason for Australia - the way of life just appeals to me much more than the UK one. I have wanted to live over there since I was just a wee lad.

 

As for culture - I work in a school, working hard is nothing new :D Relaxing hard may be new though!

unixman

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As an ex-pat be prepared for a very slow pace of life. Sitting on the beach everyday after work all sounds very wonderful, but believe me it gets boring after 10 years.

 

Remember distances are huge; it's quite easy to pop over to Paris for a weekend. It's not that easy in Oz, unless you are prepared to fly every where. When I fly home, and you cross the Northern Australian coast, your first reaction is "Ah nearly there". Nup! You've still got 6 or 7 hours to go. Driving the very long distances is boring and damned uncomfortable.

 

On the plus side, petrol is way cheaper, food is generally of better quality, the sky is higher and the climate brilliant.

 

Depending on where you live, IT jobs are quite sparse. I'd love to go back, but I doubt that I could get a job unless I lived interstate from by home city. If I have to do that, I might just as well work here.

localzuk

localzuk

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As an ex-pat be prepared for a very slow pace of life. Sitting on the beach everyday after work all sounds very wonderful, but believe me it gets boring after 10 years.

 

That depends on what you are looking for in life though doesn't it?

 

Remember distances are huge; it's quite easy to pop over to Paris for a weekend. It's not that easy in Oz, unless you are prepared to fly every where. When I fly home, and you cross the Northern Australian coast, your first reaction is "Ah nearly there". Nup! You've still got 6 or 7 hours to go. Driving the very long distances is boring and damned uncomfortable.

 

I am very used to travelling for 12 or more hours to visit family, so that isn't a problem.

 

And isn't the comfort of the drive down to the car? :D

 

Depending on where you live, IT jobs are quite sparse. I'd love to go back, but I doubt that I could get a job unless I lived interstate from by home city. If I have to do that, I might just as well work here.

 

I'd be looking at living in Sydney or one of the other major cities (melbourne etc...).

edie209

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Depending on where you live, IT jobs are quite sparse. I'd love to go back, but I doubt that I could get a job unless I lived interstate from by home city. If I have to do that, I might just as well work here.

 

I was in Oz about 10 weeks ago in Queensland ( The Smart State ) and from what I found there were plently of vacancies in IT, but if you live further out of the city jobs will be harder to come by bit like the UK really if you live on the M4 corridor there is alot of work come down here to Cornwall and its a different matter.

 

I think its worth for the quality of life I mean when ( and if) I get to Oz I can afford to buy a house cash, in the UK I'll a mortgage till I'm nearly 60

Grommit

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Lol...no point worries for me....I have an Oz passport, so no worries there.

 

NZ...It's Oz 20 years ago! *Ducks and waits for incoming Anchor Butter!*

 

A word of warning though.. Although on the surface Australia and New Zealand appear to be similar to the UK they are not. They are both very different society's to the UK and the lifestyle etc. is different. And it is that that catches a lot of British immigrants out...the work ethic etc. is different for example. You work hard while at work, but once home the lifestyle in oz at least is outside and relaxed. If you have kids of 10 or younger they will take to it all likes ducks to water, older kids and adults find it harder to adjust to the changes in my experience. However lput the effort in to make firends etc and you will soon be rewarded with invites to BBQ's and other events and it is then that you will start to enjoy the Oz lifestyle.

 

Also another word of warning you'll be ribbed mercilessly everywhere as being the pommie!! :D

 

I used to live in a country with lots of Sunshine and golden beaches..... but man was i bored.. no culture mate.... apart from the beach.. and the beach... and the errr beach... Zzzzzzzzzzzz

 

you will soon be rewarded with invites to BBQ's and other events and it is then that you will start to enjoy the Oz lifestyle.

 

OMG if thats all there is to look forward too and is your aspiration well I would rather poke myself in the eye with a blunt knitting needle...

 

"Aspire to be invited to a BBQ"... ROFLMAO

 

i have friends in Aussie land and they might as wll be dead... it's on the wrong side of the planet and a massive mission to get any where..

 

And when we try to speak to them it's the wrong time and visa versa..

 

When I get that evening chatty buzz I can phone my mates here and chat.. try there and they are in early moring wake up mode and not very chatty... same with them when they are in the evening chatty vibe.....

 

calls got less and less and haven't heard from them in nearly a year..

 

Maybe they got lucky and got invited to a BBQ

Grommit

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That sounds good to me. Add in the fact that there is miles of coast to explore, huge expanses of land also and it sounds like an ideal place to me...

 

Cool... bye bye then..... enjoy the vast wilderness...

OutLawTorn

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Its always amusing seeing how the rest of the world looks at us... have to say tho, what does Fosters Beer, Home & Away and Neighbours have in common? they're all exports since no-one here actually likes them :)

 

In terms of IT Jobs, its pretty much the same as everywhere: experience speaks for more than qualifications... although that being said and done, most places seem to like you to have a uni degree in something, even if its not necessarily in an IT area.

 

I'd look at Perth would probably be my first suggestion of where to start off, as its a state capital that is growing fairly well and there are quite a few ISPs based there. Sydney and Melbourne are fairly saturated in terms of population, not sure about Brisbane... Darwin and Tasmania are holes... Adelaide is growing too, just not quite in the same way as Perth...

 

Hope this helps :)

Grommit

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Right Perth... full of South Africans.. a population of only 1.5 million... eek ..

 

Perth is one of the most isolated metropolitan areas on Earth. The nearest city to Perth with a population over 1 million is Adelaide in South Australia, which is 2,724 kilometres (1,707 mi) away....

 

Perth is physically closer to East Timor and Jakarta, Indonesia, than it is to Sydney, Melbourne, and Brisbane

 

and it's 3452 km to Melbourne and 4144 km to Sydney ...

OutLawTorn

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Yes, but as i said in the earlier post, Perth is where a lot of ISPs are based, because thats where a lot of the Internet lines into Australia come into... And as it only has a population of its 1.5mill (curious where u got the stats from), means more options in terms of employment compared to sydney with its considerably higher population... not to mention the severe shortage and high expense of properties to rent/buy in Sydney at the moment...

 

Why go where more people are trying to find fewer available positions, when you can go to somewhere that has more jobs available and less people trying to get them?

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